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Coments concers are much appreciated

HQ: Warboss PK, Bosspole attack squig, twinlinked shoota
Big Mek W/ SAG

Troops: 7nobs with 'eavy armor, pk, one with WAAAGH banner and one painboy making 8 total + trukk with red paint job
30 slugga choppa boyz 3 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk
30 slugga choppa boyz 3 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk

Elites: 8 Lootas

'Eavy support
3 killa kans 2 with rokkets one with grot zooka

Fast attack (maybe cut or edited) 3 Deff coptas 2 with tl rockets 1 with tl big shoota

Looking for input

Any help??

I would definitely be swapping those slugga boys for shoota boys. Devastating in both shooting and whilst overwatching, still can dominate an assult phase once the enemy has been whittled down slighty.

On pack of 8 lootas hardly seems enough, IMO. Had massive success with running two groups of 10. Remember, with D3 shots, S7, you want to maximise the gak out of that hitting power!

Do all the nobz have PKs? 0w0 cause that is unnecessary, big choppas are very cost effective...also... me personally, i love deffkoptas, but splitting up weapons within the unit isn't that effective unless you are REALLY strapped for points, its a all or nothing in terms of weapons to maximize the damage it can do. And Heavy...srry.. EAVY armor is almost a must for warboss, 3 wounds inset much with a 6+ save. XD

Oops, i did miss the armor for the warboss, and im still getting over to 6th edition, as far as the nobs not all needing pk's what would you guys recommend as in how many with pk's

Change sluggas to shootas
Drop RPJ on Trukk
Reconsider Kans (trade for air support or defense)
Too many PKs for the points
Reconsider SAG (trade for more lootas)

My $0.02

SAG = 95 pts for ONE 2d6 Str shot w 72" range (avg Str = 7) and can't hit zooming fliers.
Or 90 pts of Lootas = SIX x d3 Str 7 shots w 48" range.

Hmmmm....

Ok, i'm not used to the whole flyer thing that's new and no one i play with has any yet, as far as the PK 's how many would you suggest?

The nobz will get singled out and killed in a greent-tide, they need a transport at least. My one or two cents

Never ever mix weapons on Kanz!

Seriously, it never ends well.

As for PK take one or two, give you some armor krumpin units in your nobs....and...honestly...you hear people say nobz will get singled out and killed, or they will just get pie plated to death with str 8 weapons...but remeber...WE DA ORKS...which means they will almost never have enough to shoot at everything you have at once....now while you might feel bad about your nobz geting blasted away....that's one less high powered weapon NOT firing at your boyz.... and nobz might look big and bad, but at the end of the day its da boyz that get the job done....hhmmm snock attack gun is more for fun games, it can be effective bbuuuuttt you should think about drooping it for more elites...as for the kans...mmmm try them out and see how they work! Oh and remeber to get cybork bodies for your nobz and warboss, 5+ is better than nothing! Even more so with the feel no pain.

With only 8 nobz, one of which is a painboy, you really only need one-two klaws. Definitely swap out the slugga boyz for shoota boyz.

zammerak wrote:
Coments concers are much appreciated

HQ: Warboss PK, Bosspole attack squig, twinlinked shoota
Big Mek W/ SAG
I would switch the SAG to a KFF.
Troops: 7nobs with 'eavy armor, pk, one with WAAAGH banner and one painboy making 8 total + trukk with red paint job
I would honestly not put them in a trukk. With that being the only fast vehicle it will be number one target. Foot slogging them isn't a bad idea. They will be getting cover from the kans and boys.
30 slugga choppa boyz 3 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk
30 slugga choppa boyz 3 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk
I think shootas would be the best thing when you are foot sloggin them. If you did mech then sluggas might be better.
Elites: 8 Lootas

'Eavy support
3 killa kans 2 with rokkets one with grot zooka
Never mix weapons in the same unit. If you want do 3 sqauds of 2 with one sqaud being zookas if they are built all ready.
Fast attack (maybe cut or edited) 3 Deff coptas 2 with tl rockets 1 with tl big shoota
Again shouldn't mix the koptas either. All rokkits would be best.
Looking for input

Hope this helps.

split the two 30 boyz squadz into three 20 boyz. you ll get more flexible then.

Have you underspent on the points you appear a little short?
(Wow didn't notice all the PKs)

Lots of good advice already. Just a few more ideas:

I like a buzzsaw on at least one deffkopta to help if tank hunt, with all TL rokkits.

Loose the boss poles in the big units.

Apart from getting hold of and throttling AV14 vehicles you have got very little which can worry them and nothing which is fast enough to reach them. I'm thinking what would you do if faced with only chimeras and veterans in an IG army as you would probably be facing 8 - 10 chimeras before considering a support tank (well that's my orky nightmare which I sanity check all my armies against).

I would look to:

Add an additional trukk (full of boyz)
Reduce the nobz unit slightly and switch some PK to big choppas (OR go to a big unit of meganobz with kombi skorchas)
Loose the kanz and take a deffdredd (if you have the model) possibly skotcha / additional weapon and run it along with the boys - also a point scoring unit now (or give it a skorcha and a big shoota and sit it on an objective with the big mek for when your opponent decides to knock out the SAG - not the best use of a deff dredd but fun).
Use the kanz points to also get some big guns to sit with the big mek and the lootas, T7 gretchin, can glance the toughest tanks.
Shrink the boyz down slightly 20-25 so they can make better use of cover and free up some points.
Put in 10 boy mob for taking objectives / baby sitting the mek and other support
Stick with the 8 lootas and roll really well with the number of shots and to hit rolls (don't get any more kits what will you do with all the little mek models!).

balsak_da_mighty, That makes alot of sense, with cutting down the nobs pks, that will open up alot more points for me to use on other units.

General consensus here is to swap slugga boyz to shoota boyz.

Keep the input coming!

For the most part I always use shootas. But I tend to shoot with my Ork army. If you were doing a mechanized list then mayeb the sluggas would be better. But ultimately its up to you. I just feel if you are walking up you will be able to shoot while doing so.

As far as the kans go, rockets or grotzookas?

Its good but it does have flaws as everyone Kindly Pointed out. But i would Say No Kans cause of the new Hull points and Flyers the Killa-Kans are not going to last very long but i would also say give the Big mek a Kustom Force Field for Some protection

HQ: Warboss PK, attack squig, twinlinked shoota, Eavy armor. (mega armor?)
Big Mek W/ kff

Troops: 9nobs with 'eavy armor, 3 with pk, one with WAAAGH banner and one painboy making 10 total
20 shoota boyz 2 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk
20 shoota boyz 2 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk

Elites: 8 Lootas

'Eavy support
(in progress, kans, deff dread, other?)

Fast attack (maybe cut or edited) 3 Deff coptas with tl rockets (maybe more)

Roughly 1500pts



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Jasper, Great information, all currently being concidered to add to the army. I always knew i was shy on the tank hunting. Would you guys reccomend the addition of a dakka jet? add an extra tl supa shoota, and make the fighter pilot an ace? All input welcomed!

I would be interested to see what you go for with your heavy support; although any good ideas I will pinch.

If you have a friendly game try out a dakka jet. At the very least it will help the lootas in an anti-aircraft role and give your fire base a bit more mobility.
To be honest the only thing which puts me off them is the size of the model but I think I'll cobble together a kustom one and add it to my army.

zammerak wrote:
HQ: Warboss PK, attack squig, twinlinked shoota, Eavy armor. (mega armor?)
Big Mek W/ kff

Troops: 9nobs with 'eavy armor, 3 with pk, one with WAAAGH banner and one painboy making 10 total
20 shoota boyz 2 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk
20 shoota boyz 2 with big shoota, one nob with boss pole and pk

Elites: 8 Lootas

'Eavy support
(in progress, kans, deff dread, other?)

Fast attack (maybe cut or edited) 3 Deff coptas with tl rockets (maybe more)

Roughly 1500pts



Automatically Appended Next Post:
Jasper, Great information, all currently being concidered to add to the army. I always knew i was shy on the tank hunting. Would you guys reccomend the addition of a dakka jet? add an extra tl supa shoota, and make the fighter pilot an ace? All input welcomed!

heavy support - consider Kannons - cheap and flexible (s8 ap3 or blast) and now T7, 2W for the Kannon, plus free grots for more wounds (they get T7 too - got to love T7 grots).
need another squad of shootas

Alright good information. As of right now i'm only playing against mates and people at my FLGS. Not competitive play yet.

What if you dropped the Nobs down a bit?

10 is a bit over kill. I might drop them to aroun 6-7. This will free up some points to add somewhere else. You should also drop eavy armor on them and give the CBB. You will always get that save. There are alot of stuff that will ignore the 4+.

Ok that makes sense ill cut the nobs back to add points to the pool, I just got a dakka jet that i will be adding, extra TL supa shoota and upgrading pilot to an ace

Ok New list
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HQ: Warboss- pk, tl shoota, attack squig, eavy armor (mega armor?
Big mek-KFF
Elietes: 9 Lootas
Nobs: 6 and 1 pain boy- 2 with pk 4 with HC 6 with tl shoota + cybork bodies
Troops: 17 slugga boys, 1 nob with pk, 2 big shootas 20 total.
17 slugga boys, 1 nob with pk, 2 big shootas 20 total. (I know about using shootas I will proxy them in my games to come before buying all new boyz)
10 boyz 1 big shoota boy one nob with pk + trukk
10 boyz 1 big shoota boy one nob with pk + trukk
Fast Attack: Dakka jet with extra tl supa shoota
Heavy Support: 3 Kans With Rockets

Im at the office so i hope i didnt miss anything.
The plan is to use the kans and the KFF as a kan wall and have boys foot slog behind staying in cover as best as possibe.

As I am new to 6th ed I dont know how well this will work but ill give it a shot and report back, if there are other ideas (besides changing to shoota boyz) im all ears