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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:10:17
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Orc Big'Un
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Question: what does 6-1x0+2/2 equal? According the majority of comments on this Facebook post > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=512606972087550&set=a.189043604443890.53691.161956393819278&type=1, it equals either 5, 1, 3.5, or 0.
Stop me if I'm wrong here, but this is embarrassing. Since there is no unknown quantity in the equation (and thus only one possible answer), and assuming that most people know PEMDAS, how can there be so many people disagreeing on the answer here?
_Tim?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:14:47
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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assuming there is no brackets, the answer should be 7 according to BODMAS
on those facebook things the seems to a massive lack of basic mathematics
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:15:18
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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PEMDAS is for equations which aren't written clearly. What does it matter?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/02 21:15:46
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:15:46
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Orc Big'Un
Somewhere in the steamy jungles of the south...
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Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:assuming there is no brackets, the answer should be 7 according to BODMAS
on those facebook things the seems to a massive lack of basic mathematics
Is BODMAS the Brit equivalent of PEMDAS?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:15:57
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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6-1x0+2/2 No parenthesis, no exponents, so straight to Multiply and divide
1x0=0 2/2=1
6-0+1=7
If I did that right, then everyone on FB has been wrong so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:17:33
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Yes. The acronym is made up of the order of operations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:19:40
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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Yes
Brackets
Over
Division
Multiplication
Addition
Subtraction
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:23:38
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Folsom, CA, just outside Sacramento
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people need to pay more attention in math class methinks. a 5th grader could tell you the answer is 7...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:26:15
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ugh...I ned to refresh on math class I do believe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:26:43
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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If it was written 6-(1x0)+(2/2) I don't think there would be as many people having a problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:34:39
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Glorioski wrote:If it was written 6-(1x0)+(2/2) I don't think there would be as many people having a problem.
And if you let them use a scientific calculator they also would be less of a problem. You're missing the point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:37:29
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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I said 5 at first, but only because I got confused and forgot to get rid of that 1 after the multiplication steps.
The answer is indeed 7.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:37:33
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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azazel the cat wrote:Glorioski wrote:If it was written 6-(1x0)+(2/2) I don't think there would be as many people having a problem.
And if you let them use a scientific calculator they also would be less of a problem. You're missing the point.
If the point is people don't know BODMAS then you need to understand people do know the rule of DIGAS. Do I give a gak? I would venture most people on facebook know more about DIGAS than BODMAS because lets face it the vast majority of them are not engineers and don't need to give a gak.
If you want an issue try people leaving school unable to read.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:50:04
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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It's ambiguously written, but you should address the multiplication and division before the addition and subtraction, following BODMAS.
Also, it's questionable as to what the '/' represents here. Is the 2/2 supposed to be a fraction (2/2)? ie. 1?
Or do they actually mean the equation is written as...
6-1x0+26-1x0+2÷2
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:52:07
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Howard A Treesong wrote:It's ambiguously written, but you should address the multiplication and division before the addition and subtraction, following BODMAS.
Also, it's questionable as to what the '/' represents here. Is the 2/2 supposed to be a fraction (2/2)? ie. 1?
Or do they actually mean the equation is written as...
6-1x0+26-1x0+2÷2
Both 2/2 and 2÷2 are 1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:53:38
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 21:55:15
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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..and where did the +26 come from?
Edit: ah no, I see he's written the expression twice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 22:25:15
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Glorioski wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:It's ambiguously written, but you should address the multiplication and division before the addition and subtraction, following BODMAS. Also, it's questionable as to what the '/' represents here. Is the 2/2 supposed to be a fraction (2/2)? ie. 1? Or do they actually mean the equation is written as... 6-1x0+26-1x0+2÷2 Both 2/2 and 2÷2 are 1. In isolation yes, but it changes the meaning of the equation if the result is (6-(1x0)+26-(1x0)+2)÷2 as opposed to 6-(1x0)+26-(1x0)+(2/2)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 22:29:38
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Howard A Treesong wrote: Glorioski wrote: Howard A Treesong wrote:It's ambiguously written, but you should address the multiplication and division before the addition and subtraction, following BODMAS.
Also, it's questionable as to what the '/' represents here. Is the 2/2 supposed to be a fraction (2/2)? ie. 1?
Or do they actually mean the equation is written as...
6-1x0+26-1x0+2÷2
Both 2/2 and 2÷2 are 1.
In isolation yes, but it changes the meaning of the equation if the result is (6-(1x0)+26-(1x0)+2)÷2 as opposed to 6-(1x0)+26-(1x0)+(2/2)
Those two equations are completely different from the original.
6-1x0+2/2 is exactly the same as 6-1x0+2÷2.
(6-1x0+2)÷2, if that is what you meant, is what you get if you use an incorrect order of operations.
Perhaps you are thinking that the / means:
6-1x0+2
2
..it doesn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 22:48:29
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Glorioski wrote: azazel the cat wrote:Glorioski wrote:If it was written 6-(1x0)+(2/2) I don't think there would be as many people having a problem.
And if you let them use a scientific calculator they also would be less of a problem. You're missing the point.
If the point is people don't know BODMAS then you need to understand people do know the rule of DIGAS. Do I give a gak? I would venture most people on facebook know more about DIGAS than BODMAS because lets face it the vast majority of them are not engineers and don't need to give a gak.
If you want an issue try people leaving school unable to read.
You don't need to be an engineer to know this stuff. It's taught in 2nd grade. And anyone that thinks they do not need to care about basic mathematics is someone that is only useful as an organ donor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 22:52:37
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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I would make a bet with you that a majority of successful people can get by without knowing BODMAS. That's not the same as not caring about basic mathematics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 22:56:58
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Fixture of Dakka
Kamloops, BC
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You're both wrong it's actually BEDMAS (Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 22:59:01
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Glorioski wrote:
Perhaps you are thinking that the / means:
6-1x0+2
2
..it doesn't.
I'd still have used ÷ rather than / to avoid that confusion. To me at least, using the '/' instead of '÷' was done in place of writing the equation on two lines, because that's what I would do if I was writing it out to fit on a single line rather than try to put across two lines. But I'd put the brackets in anyway so there shouldn't be misinterpretation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 23:03:11
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Howard A Treesong wrote: Glorioski wrote:
Perhaps you are thinking that the / means:
6-1x0+2
2
..it doesn't.
I'd still have used ÷ rather than / to avoid that confusion. To me at least, using the '/' instead of '÷' was done in place of writing the equation on two lines, because that's what I would do if I was writing it out to fit on a single line rather than try to put across two lines. But I'd put the brackets in anyway so there shouldn't be misinterpretation.
Don't know what age you are but ÷ is not a universal symbol for division and is kind of obsolete for use within expressions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/02 23:33:13
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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I got 7. Then I scrolled down this thread and learned I was right and all the people on facebook were wrong. Now I feel very good about myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 00:21:47
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Cheesecat wrote:
You're both wrong it's actually BEDMAS (Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction).
I think you'll find it's BIMDAS (Brackets, Indices, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 00:52:04
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Glorioski wrote:I would make a bet with you that a majority of successful people can get by without knowing BODMAS. That's not the same as not caring about basic mathematics.
And I would take that stupid bet.
Can you run any type of business without knowing this? No.
Can you accurately file taxes without knowing this? No.
Can you calculate a mortgage without knowing this? No.
Also, it's BEDMAS. I don't know what that O is for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 00:55:52
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Over... Don't ask me why i don't know or care... You probably need to know the order of operations in order to get to any job with some kind of responsibility (Managers etc). They tend to involve some kind of maths though not all of them...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 01:07:21
Subject: This is hilarious and painful.
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Powerful Pegasus Knight
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Applied mathematics are rarely going to present you with such an equation where you need to apply the order of operations to make sense of it. Feel fee to give an example though azazel. I run a business myself btw, I do my own taxes and can't think of where an equation comes up where I need it, I haven't needed to use bodmas since a level maths.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/03 02:02:41
Subject: Re:This is hilarious and painful.
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A Town Called Malus wrote: Cheesecat wrote:
You're both wrong it's actually BEDMAS (Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction).
I think you'll find it's BIMDAS (Brackets, Indices, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction) 
We have BODMAS too, perhaps it's the accent or different ways of being taught the same thing.
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