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2012/09/04 07:03:17
Subject: Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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So i wanna decide what to assemble my models as before i assemble them (of course haha)
Handgunners tear through armor better but wont really be able to fire if i go first.
But Crossbowmen are still S4 and have a 30" range so first turn they're firing away.
Just wanna get some opinions like i usually do from Dakka. Failed to let me down yet guys 
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2012/09/04 08:44:16
Subject: Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Crossbowmen are generally the more all rounded choice.
Handgunners are usually better if your meta involves lots of armour, and are a close tie if they are the better dwarf handgunners.
I'd suggest Crossbowmen over Handgunners, as the longer firing period does give them a few more points over handguns.
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2012/09/04 09:28:07
Subject: Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Depends on what armies you expect to fight more often and what you already have in your army I'd think.
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2012/09/04 09:37:48
Subject: Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Crossbowmen are the default pick, for being able to shoot first turn, and get short range at 15" rather than 12". Handgunners are the specialist "my opponent has a lot of 4+ or greater saves" choice.
Neither are optimal choices compared to the artillery though, if you can fit it in, a cannon or helblaster will do the same job only better in every possible way.
Core is for knights and state troops.
Archers are the "winner" support missile choice in 8th edition, having been reduced in points whereas the crossbowmen and handgunners rose... they won't kill anything tough, but that's what the artillery is there for!
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/09/04 09:41:43
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2012/09/24 03:26:38
Subject: Re:Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Crossbows..ALL DAY
That 6 inches surprisingly makes them loads more useful.
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2012/09/24 08:44:22
Subject: Re:Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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Neither are great, but I've found when I take handgunners I miss the extra range of the crossbows a lot. On the other hand, I don't often miss the armour penetration when I take crossbows, as I'm generally only doing nuisance damage anyway.
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2012/09/26 00:02:42
Subject: Handgunners or crossbowmen? Hmmmm
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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The extra 6" range on crossbows wont matter much, the extra 3" short range bracket is more important.
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