Occupy unmasked film coming out

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**Relapse**

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1813008628001/exclusive-occupy-unmasked/?playlist_id=86871&intcmp=obnetwork

Here's an article on the film:

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/09/06/breitbart-film-seeks-to-bare-roots-of-occupy-movement/

Will this turn out to be a conservative version of a Michael Moore film?

**Jihadin**

I did not see my water cannon.......where is my water cannon

**Frazzled**

I'll just leave this here
(no one but me seems tho think this is reasonable grounds for Houston to declare war on Austin)
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Undercover-Austin-police-officers-aided-Houston-3841846.php

Undercover Austin police officers aided Houston Occupy protesters
Wednesday, September 5, 2012 | Updated: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 10:20pm Comments 92 E-mail Print Page 1 of 1

Joshua Phanco, Assistant Harris County District Attorney, appears before District Judge Joan Campbell to discuss the Austin police officers who infiltrated the protest group, and entrapped them into making devices they used in a blocking a road at the Port of Houston on Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2012, in Houston. Defense attorney for Ronnie Garza, of Occupy Austin who joined protest in Occupy Houston, will asked District Judge Joan Campbell to dismiss charges, saying trio of Austin undercover detectives showed them how to make "Dragon Sleeves,'' PVC tubes allowed protestors to chain their arms together.

1 of 14Joshua Phanco, Assistant Harris County District Attorney, appears before District Judge Joan Campbell to discuss the Austin police officers who infiltrated the protest group, and entrapped them into making devices they used in a blocking a road at the Port of Houston on Wednesday, Sept. 5, 2012, in Houston. Defense attorney for Ronnie Garza, of Occupy Austin who joined protest in Occupy Houston, will asked District Judge Joan Campbell to dismiss charges, saying trio of Austin undercover detectives showed them how to make "Dragon Sleeves,'' PVC tubes allowed protestors to chain their arms together.
Photo By Mayra Beltran/Houston Chronicle The bushy-haired, bearded protester called "Butch" didn't say much during the Occupy Austin planning sessions. Instead, he took members aside and pressed them to turn to more aggressive tactics, not a surprising strategy for a national grass-roots movement that has spawned hundreds of arrests.

It turns out that Butch, however, wasn't some wild-eyed activist intent on bringing down the top "1 percent." He was actually Austin police detective Shannon Dowell, working undercover with two other officers who had infiltrated the Austin branch of the protest movement.

"One of the things Shannon especially was doing, he would pull people aside from the general conversation and say debating isn't really the answer. We need to escalate the tactics and move to action," said Austin protester Ronnie Garza. "That's the kind of character we're dealing with."

Garza and six others now face trial on felony charges in Harris County after Houston police arrested him and 19 protesters on Dec. 12 as they tried to block an entrance to the Port of Houston during an Occupy demonstration.

State District Judge Joan Campbell lectured prosecutors during a Wednesday pretrial hearing for Garza about not disclosing the police officers' roles in the case and is now reviewing a large stack of Austin police emails delivered to her court by an Austin assistant city attorney.

Garza and the six other protesters at the December demonstration used "lock boxes," also called "dragon sleeves," to lock their arms inside tubes made of PVC pipe, a tactic designed to prevent authorities from easily removing the restraints while clearing protesters. Detective Dowell purchased and constructed the lock boxes, prosecutors now acknowledge.

'Clearly Brady material'

His role in making the devices is a key element in the case against Garza because prosecutors contend that he and other protesters were in possession of a criminal instrument during the protest, which carries a felony charge. Houston fire officials removed the lock boxes from the protesters after their arrest, using a tent to conceal the operation from the news media and protesters who were filming the event.

Campbell delayed Wednesday's hearing until Sept. 25, when she will rule on whether the undercover police files contain information favorable to Garza that prosecutors must share with the defense, as required by the 1963 U.S. Supreme Court case known as Brady vs. Maryland.

But prosecutors told the judge they had no idea the Austin Police Department evidently planted an officer in the movement, until defense attorneys subpoenaed him.

"Had we realized that an undercover officer was involved" and had participated in the construction of the dragon sleeves, "that is clearly Brady material," Harris County prosecutor Colleen Barnett said in an interview after the hearing. "Had we known that, we would have turned it over to the defense."

Chief defends officers

Attorney Glen Gladden, who represents Garza pro bono, said his office received an anonymous tip that Dowell had attended a dinner party and bragged about his undercover work with young protesters in Houston.

"I believe he is a government provocateur," Gladden said. "I didn't find out from the DA's office or the police. I found out because Dowell was bragging to the wrong people about setting these kids up, and they tipped us off. It was his big mouth that got him down here."

Austin Assistant Police Chief Sean Mannix attended the hearing and later defended his officers' conduct.

"I have no reason to believe they behaved improperly," said Mannix, who declined to comment on the mission of the undercover officers.

Campbell also expressed concern about the apparent failure of Austin police to inform the Houston Police Department about its ongoing undercover investigation before the arrests at the port. The judge questioned the safety of HPD officers and the public, citing a scenario where a bomb could have been assembled by the undercover agents and handed over to protesters.

Randall Kallinen, a longtime Houston civil rights attorney, is defending port protester Eric Marquez, who has not been able to make bail because he has a pending theft case in Dallas County.

"It's quite incredible that these Austin police officers would do this stuff, but this has been happening in other cities where agent provocateurs are shutting down protests by showing up in menacing clothing, throwing rocks and doing other disrupting tactics," Kallinen said.

james.pinkerton@chron.com
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**Easy E**

Did Dinesh D'Souze make this?

**dogma**

Relapse wrote:

Will this turn out to be a conservative version of a Michael Moore film?

No way to know, but given that Breitbart was in many ways a mirror image of Moore it wouldn't surprise me.

**CT GAMER**

Oh Fox news...

**djones520**

Don't think it'll show much that I didn't already have figured out about the Occupy Movement.

**Surtur**

Tea Party = Holy Cow of grass roots movements

Occupy = anarchists to help the Democrats to power all being paid off by overbearing government fat cats and unions or something

**ShumaGorath**

Oh look, relapse posted a documentary financially backed by a conservative news organization to further delude himself.

I'll just leave this here
(no one but me seems tho think this is reasonable grounds for Houston to declare war on Austin)
http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Undercover-Austin-police-officers-aided-Houston-3841846.php

Google had never heard the term "Dragon sleeve" used that way before that article.

**Jihadin**

LOL that UC Davis thread keeps coming back to haunt us

**CT GAMER**

ShumaGorath wrote:
Oh look, relapse posted a documentary financially backed by a conservative news organization to further delude himself.

Opening scene from the movie:

**Melissia**

dogma wrote:
Relapse wrote:

Will this turn out to be a conservative version of a Michael Moore film?
No way to know, but given that Breitbart was in many ways a mirror image of Moore it wouldn't surprise me.

So basically it's not worth watching, just like most of M.Moore's films...

**AustonT**

Given some of the other films that Magnet distributes I'll probably see it out of curiosity. The last thing that Brietbart says on the Fox run rings true though. I think Occupy will be the story of the decade domestically. I'm assuming he meant that in a sort of sinister way, but having so many people actually willing to go be miserable together without any real kind of unifying theme says that something( or things) is very wrong. That is a story.

**Jihadin**

Dn't they just convist three guys for trying to blow up a bridge recently? They had connection with the OWS groups.

**AustonT**

I vaguely remember that, but I'm pretty sure the connection to OWS was tenuous at best. If I was going to plan something like that I'd use OWS as a convienant backdrop to come and go without being flagged by the cops.

**DIDM**

I think Fox news thinks back to the roots of Fox and hates it's self. In Living Color made Fox, and Jim Carry was the idiotic white guy in a predominately black show. Now these old gray white folk have turned the tables.

**ShumaGorath**

AustonT wrote:
I vaguely remember that, but I'm pretty sure the connection to OWS was tenuous at best. If I was going to plan something like that I'd use OWS as a convienant backdrop to come and go without being flagged by the cops.

It probably doesn't help that OWS is a crowdsourced populist movement and not something with any central structure anywhere. It fights itself as much as the 1%. Without a organizational structure or any form of cohesion you can't really be a thing that has "connections".

**Relapse**

dogma wrote:
Relapse wrote:

Will this turn out to be a conservative version of a Michael Moore film?

No way to know, but given that Breitbart was in many ways a mirror image of Moore it wouldn't surprise me.

That's what I was worried about. I'm no Moore fan because of the ridiculous slants he puts on things. I've tried to sit through a couple of Moore films and couldn't make it much past the first half hour, and I was thinking this might be the same type of thing, but from a conservative viewpoint.

**DIDM**

are the 99% just orcs on a waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

**d-usa**

AustonT wrote:
I vaguely remember that, but I'm pretty sure the connection to OWS was tenuous at best. If I was going to plan something like that I'd use OWS as a convienant backdrop to come and go without being flagged by the cops.

I think a lot of the "there might be a connection to the occupy movement" talk is about as valid as the "there might be a connection to the Tea Party movement" talk.

They both usually amount to some version of "they went to a meeting or two and looked at a website about it" (aka, they are both crap).