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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 13:01:59
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Zhandrek 185
Catacomb Command Barge 80
Vanguard Obyron 160
Destroyer Lord 125
Mind Shackle Scarabs 15
Royal Court
1 x Lord 35
Res Orb 30
Mind Shackle Scarabs 15
Warscythe 10
Harbringer of Despair 30
Troops
5 x Warriors 65
Ghost Ark 115
10 x Immortals 170
Elites
5 x Deathmarks 95
Night Scythe 100
Heavt Support
Annihillation Barge 90
Annihillation Barge 90
Annihillation Barge 90
The idea is to have Zhandrek shoot up the board and have Obyron and his immortals VoD onto him, no scatter within 6", shoot the hell out of the unit infront and hopefully keep them from assualting because of scary Obyron and his Lord buddy with the RO, MSS and Warscythe.
Rinse and repeat, even if they get into combat, they can disappear because of ghostwalk mantle. Repeat.
Have the Deathmarks use the Cheese ability to drop from thier NS, template S8 AP1, 2's to wound due to HfH and reroll 1's because of Preferred enemy from the Desroyer Lord.
the Ghost ark is just going to roll onto an objective and hopefully keep the 5 warriors alive until last turn when they can jump out and count as scoring.
ABs just sit at the back and slowly move up the board to wherever theyre needed
please let me know what you think, i'm going to give it a good few games for fine tuning and to learn to use the list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 13:16:44
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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Zandrehk in a CCB is pretty useless, he has a staff of light, not a warscythe
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 13:22:27
Subject: Re:Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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its mainly for the manouverability, getting obyron around the board without having to worry about the DS scatter, and the increased survivability, just doesnt make sense to have him foot slogging really, if i took that away, then obyron would have to footslog too, which i dont really want
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 13:33:55
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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I feel like you may be over-estimating Obyron's punch in melee, he's good, but him teleporting around with immortals doesn't feel too dangerous, I'd try to find a dedicated melee unit to accompany him.
The x3 barges is good, and the deathmarks with NS is good too.
What is the purpose of the destroyer lord?
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 13:38:05
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Way to much stuff in HQ and not enough in troops in my opinion. also MSS is 20 pts on a destroyer lord.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 13:48:07
Subject: Re:Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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in melee, the lord should help out obyron with his mss, stopping (hopefully) any big hitting melee specialists, hopefully he wont get into much CQ but if he does at least the unit can disengage and shoot another unit, the dedicated melee units for necrons are pap except maybe wraiths, but a lord cant joint them, taking away obyrons bodyguard.
ill have to find that 5 points some where then, or take it away, its only there, again to scare off big hitting melee guys and to hopefully keep the deathmarks alive a bit longer, although they are mainly a one hit wonder unit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 14:50:56
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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So all I need to do to draw or tie with you in a 1500 point game is to kill 1 AV13 vehicle, 5 very soft necron warriors and 10 immortals.
You need more troops.
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Necrons: 2200 Points
Orks: 3000 Points
Space Marines: 165 Points
W-L-D (Necron Primary)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 14:57:50
Subject: Re:Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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True, except that the 10 immortals should be pretty hard to kill, with Obyron and the lord to keep them trucking, the ghost ark is acctually pretty survivable, what if its kept in reserve?
I will probably play the list on thursday and then ineviatbly have to find some more troops to put in
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/11 23:05:59
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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I think you have put to many points into what people would call 'cheesy' combinations, and not enough in your core army. xSuuy is right it won’t be hard to take out the ark and warriors, and if the immortals are going with obyron they won’t last long either. I’d say drop the destroyer lord (way to many points for what you want to do with it). Drop the command barge and play to zhandrek to his strengths (put him in a 20 man warrior squad to take advantage of his res orb; will also keep him safer from dyeing and giving your opponent 1 victory point). Now you have 225 points for troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 00:08:39
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Focused Fire Warrior
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You should take upgrade points out of your list keep only unit totals.
As for the list it seems like you have tryed to fit all the 'cheesy' combo's in a list and its a bit of a mess .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 06:59:50
Subject: Re:Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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You will have fun in casual games and be super annoying.
A dedicated tournament list, however, will rip you apart. You have too many tricks and not enough depth. It's the same problem I have with a lot of the lists that I build.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 07:52:10
Subject: Re:Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Yeah, I decided last night to take this back to the drawing board, I'll be keeping this list tucked away for when I have a local tournament and I want to troll someone a little bit.
I have been doing a bit of research and re-reading rules all night and what I've come up with is as follows, definatley more balanced, and definately more flexibility
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Overlord
Mind Shackle Scarabs
Warscythe
Catacomb Command Barge 195
Royal Court
Harbringer of Destuction 35
Harbringer of Destuction 35
Harbringer of Destuction 35
Harbringer of Destuction 35
Troops
5 x Warriors 65
5 x Warriors 65
5 x Warriors 65
5 x Warriors 65
Fast Attack
5 X Wraiths
3 x Whip Coils
2 x Particle Casters 215
5 X Wraiths
2 x Whip Coils
3 x Particle Casters 210
5 X Wraiths
2 x Whip Coils
3 x Particle Casters 210
Heavt Support
Annihillation Barge 90
Annihillation Barge 90
Annihillation Barge 90
1500 on the dot.
any thoughts?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/12 08:19:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 08:10:10
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Very solid list. I played something much like it before I moved onto warrior spam lists. Consider getting a solar pulse in there to help the wraiths and barge lord, works wonders.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 08:13:08
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Focused Fire Warrior
Norwich,UK
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Again no upgrade costs look up army list posting rules.
Those 5 man warrior squads are going to be easy work for an opponent without a transport/ higher numbers though the list is an improvement
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/12 08:16:43
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 08:25:46
Subject: Re:Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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I could make some room by dropping the particle casters on the Wraiths, but that would only be 40 points, and if I start cutting away at the crypteks then I'll end up losing the fire power to start cutting away at 2+ armour, the idea is to keep them at the back and then move them on to objectives when the board is a little more clear, let the ABs plow forward and follow with the troops
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/12 13:17:25
Subject: Necron Cheesy 1500Pts
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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So you have 20 bodies that have a 4+ save? You are not putting enough points in troops. Necrons have awful troops choices and you only get away with MSU squads if they are in transports. It will be very hard for you to win with such vulnerable troops. Killing 5 4+ save models isn't difficult in one round of shooting.
Yes it is intimidating until you realise that only 17% of your army can win you the game.
Drop the particle casters on the wraiths - waste of points.
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Necrons: 2200 Points
Orks: 3000 Points
Space Marines: 165 Points
W-L-D (Necron Primary)
26-10-3 (67% Win Rate, 74% Win/Draw Rate) |
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