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hi dakka just came up with this in about 10 mins what do you think?
any suggestions or critisicms? help would be appreciated.

HQ:

farseer- 145
all runes, spirit stones, doom and guide

TROOPS:

10 guardians- 135
sl and warlock with conceal

10 dire avengers-125

10 dire avengers -125

10 guardians- 145
sc and warlock with conceal

5 dire avengers- 103
exarch with diresword and shuriken pistol and bladestorm

5 pathfinders- 120

ELITES:

6 striking scorpions- 133
exarch with biting blade and shadowstrike

6 fire dragons- 130
exarch with firepike and tank hunters

wave serpent- 135
tl bl's

HEAVY SUPPORT:

falcon- 145
eml and sc

wraithlord- 140
bl and Wrathsword

so i have 53 left over points?

Hello??

Vypers are bad, AV10 open topped, BS3 and expensive. Dont bother with them, especially not with stones. Stones are flat out useless there.

Fire dragons cost is not correct. 6x16+12+8+15=131 Dropping tank hunter for crack as ignoring cover is better than re-rolling damage when you already have 6 melta shots. all you really need is 1-2 pens. The upgrade isnt cost effective when you are dealing with that many melta weapons.

scorps cant assault out of outflank anymore so you need bodies. Full 10 man squad or drop the upgrades.

Wave serpents really dont need BLs. EML are more effective for a lower cost.

drop the upgrades from the avengers in a squad of 5. Bladestorm is a force multiplier but you dont have enough force to multiply.

You really need more bodies on the ground. Guardians do nothing useful but i cant say to remove them since you have so little else to absorb fire.

right the vyper can be dropped it was just filling points, the wave serpent has already been modelled, i will consider the da changes and can you suggest what other bodies on the ground?

Guardians are fine for ground troops, just keep them back and use their range. I would always go with shuriken cannons or scatter lasers. They are too innacurate to use the other weapons effictively. They are great at shooting at MC's, small units or light armor.

Run the avengers bare bones as zephoid said.

For the wraithlord, give him a S.cannon for extra dakka instead of the sword(same points). Wraithlords will either sweep CC with their own mertis, tarpit or get taken out in assault. The sword does little to change that. A wraithlord can also be shot down very quick, so to maximize your investment you need as much dakka as possible. A BL=EML is idea, but a s.cannon or scatter laser is an okay choice for the cost.

Okay, do you have any suggestions for more ground troops?

for this list, drop the SS, grab another WS with 6x fire dragons, exarch, pike, crack shot, drop the dark reapers and make 2 DA squads with exarch, 2x catapult, and bladestorm, and drop the vyper and falcon for 2x fire prisms.

I cannot make the ss and fd changes because the ss have already been made and painted though but i will make the da changes. I will edit the list