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2012/09/13 20:02:34
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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So just a quick question to clarify some potential issues with running a drop pod list.
1. My list includes 3 drop pods and a 10 man squad of TH/SS termies with a Libby in terminator armor. All declared in reserves (this can be done right? since they can all be taken in reserves no matter what right?)
2. My opponent deploys/goes first.
3. Turn 1 starts, I have nothing on table. Opponent moves a couple things, ends his player turn.
4. Bottom of turn 1, I deep strike 2 Drop Pods. Both Mishap, get delayed results.
5. Top of turn 2. I lose?
Is this accurate?
Not that it will happen very often, just want to be sure I am clear on this.
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2012/09/13 20:04:36
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yup!! Tough break on the scatter rolls :(
Dang near impossible to Mishap with Drop pods though.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/09/13 20:05:20
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2012/09/13 20:05:07
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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If you have no models on table at the end of any game turn you auto lose.
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2012/09/13 20:05:09
Subject: Re:No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes, you lose.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2012/09/13 20:06:07
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The terminators (or librarian) have to be deployed.
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2012/09/13 20:06:16
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Making Stuff
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 NickTheButcher wrote:1. My list includes 3 drop pods and a 10 man squad of TH/ SS termies with a Libby in terminator armor. All declared in reserves (this can be done right? since they can all be taken in reserves no matter what right?)
It's not because they 'can' always be in reserve... The Pods must stay in reserve. As per the FAQ, squads embarked into the pods don't count towards the number of units you can reserve, so that leaves you with one unit (the terminators) ... Half of 1, rounded up, is 1... so the Terminators can also be kept in reserve.
3. Turn 1 starts, I have nothing on table. Opponent moves a couple things, ends his player turn.
4. Bottom of turn 1, I deep strike 2 Drop Pods. Both Mishap, get delayed results.
5. Top of turn 2. I lose?
That would be correct.
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2012/09/13 20:11:43
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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 insaniak wrote: NickTheButcher wrote:1. My list includes 3 drop pods and a 10 man squad of TH/ SS termies with a Libby in terminator armor. All declared in reserves (this can be done right? since they can all be taken in reserves no matter what right?)
It's not because they 'can' always be in reserve... The Pods must stay in reserve. As per the FAQ, squads embarked into the pods don't count towards the number of units you can reserve, so that leaves you with one unit (the terminators) ... Half of 1, rounded up, is 1... so the Terminators can also be kept in reserve.
3. Turn 1 starts, I have nothing on table. Opponent moves a couple things, ends his player turn.
4. Bottom of turn 1, I deep strike 2 Drop Pods. Both Mishap, get delayed results.
5. Top of turn 2. I lose?
That would be correct.
Perfect, the clarification on what can/has to be in reserve also clears up quite a bit.
And as I said, I'm fairly certain this will be an extremely rare case if it were to happen. I usually have a squad of scouts or something else that's on the table to begin with anyway.
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2012/09/13 21:45:42
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Not true. Terminators may ALWAYS start in DS reserve
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2012/09/13 22:59:15
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Wouldn't the terminators count towards the 50% that you MUST deploy, even if they MAY always DS?
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2012/09/14 02:44:16
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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 BarBoBot wrote:Wouldn't the terminators count towards the 50% that you MUST deploy, even if they MAY always DS?
Yes.
You can always choose to keep Terminators in reserve, but you're still limited by the 50% rule.
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2012/09/14 03:02:12
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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Fresh-Faced New User
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insaniak wrote:
It's not because they 'can' always be in reserve... The Pods must stay in reserve. As per the FAQ, squads embarked into the pods don't count towards the number of units you can reserve, so that leaves you with one unit (the terminators) ... Half of 1, rounded up, is 1... so the Terminators can also be kept in reserve.
Except the librarian counts separately. 1 unit of terminators + 1 librarian = 2 units that could be deployed at the beginning of the game, so one of those groups must be deployed.
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2012/09/14 03:12:06
Subject: No models on table = YOU LOSE!
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Yeah, I missed the Librarian. Assuming there is room, though, he could go into one of the Drop Pods instead.
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