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2012/09/16 02:04:22
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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A friend of mine has ask me to try and sell off his WH40k Eldar. Some of the the units are painted(very basic paint jobs), and I just wanted to ask if its worth the time and effort to strip them? When you go looking for mini's on Ebay does the fact that you going to have to strip a mini become a factor?
This is my first Dakka form post so I hope I'm posting this in the right place.
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2012/09/16 02:08:00
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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well I'd pay a little more for (well) stripped models vs poorly painted models (or any paint really) so I'd say so (just dont expect like 40% more)
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I have half a mind to kill you, and the other half agrees |
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2012/09/16 02:21:22
Subject: Re:To strip, or not to strip?
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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I, personally, wouldn't care either way, since I have no problems stripping them myself. Just be sure that if you do strip them, you do a thorough job of it.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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2012/09/16 02:54:02
Subject: Re:To strip, or not to strip?
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Tannhauser42 wrote:I, personally, wouldn't care either way, since I have no problems stripping them myself. Just be sure that if you do strip them, you do a thorough job of it.
This, basicly. I do factor the time it will take me if I'm bidding and have to strip them myself, though.
Meaning I'll more than likely pay less for it. One thing you need to keep in mind. Depending on what you
use to strip them, it can weaken superglue bonds. If there's alot of FW/resin pieces, I wouldn't mess with
it.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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2012/09/16 03:07:18
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Serious Squig Herder
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I would say on average, you'd be more likely to get a little more for "clean" unpainted models than for poorly painted ones.
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2012/09/16 07:11:58
Subject: Re:To strip, or not to strip?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Only strip them if they are metal.
Plastics do not fare well in the stripping process.
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money. |
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2012/09/16 07:23:23
Subject: Re:To strip, or not to strip?
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Norn Queen
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 Grot 6 wrote:Only strip them if they are metal.
Plastics do not fare well in the stripping process.
Only if you're trying to strip the plastic with acetone, which you shouldn't be doing. Simple Green or Dettol strip them fine without damaging the plastic.
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2012/09/16 11:32:39
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Wraith
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Look to Super Clean. It's in a purple bottle. Just be sure to brush the hell out of em.
I honestly like having stripped models as opposed to poorly painted ones. YMMV.
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2012/09/16 11:43:19
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Oberstleutnant
Back in the English morass
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Strip the metals but not the plastics (unless the paint job is very bad). Plastics don't strip cleanly and take a fair bit of effort to clean up while metals are very easy to do.
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The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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2012/09/16 20:57:17
Subject: Re:To strip, or not to strip?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Grot 6 wrote:Only strip them if they are metal.
Plastics do not fare well in the stripping process.
-Loki- wrote: Grot 6 wrote:Only strip them if they are metal.
Plastics do not fare well in the stripping process.
Only if you're trying to strip the plastic with acetone, which you shouldn't be doing. Simple Green or Dettol strip them fine without damaging the plastic.
gunslingerpro wrote:Look to Super Clean. It's in a purple bottle. Just be sure to brush the hell out of em.
I honestly like having stripped models as opposed to poorly painted ones. YMMV.
Palindrome wrote:Strip the metals but not the plastics (unless the paint job is very bad). Plastics don't strip cleanly and take a fair bit of effort to clean up while metals are very easy to do.
ABS Brake fluid works very well for stripping plastics and metals both. It does weaken superglue bonds, so fair warning there, and I've yet to see if Finecrap reacts badly to it, though I highly doubt it would, still being plastic.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2012/09/16 22:23:27
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Dakka Veteran
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I tend not to strip, unless there is a good deal of money involved, but I'd never do full nudity, I'ma classy gentleman after all 
On a less seious note however, personally I don't think most people mind, the few times I've sold things on ebay for myself or on behalf of others (I've sold some disgustingly painted models).
If the army is well painted or even a basic painted army, i wouldn't strip it as most people I find on ebay are either looking for a painted army or accept that they may have to strip some models to get the army they want.
However if the model is thick with paint or horribly done, then I'd probably strip it to increase its chances of being sold.
I used Nail Polish Remover (usually the acetone free stuff) and I've sometimes used brake fluid, both of which work perfectly well after soaking the models and then going over them with a soft brush or toothbrush dependant on the material.
I've not tried this with finecast, but I will warn you that it does weaken the glue used on the models, espeically if you soak for too long so if you do be careful and remember to wear gloves for your hands as these chemicals can be bad for your skin.
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2012/09/17 15:09:29
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thank you for all the reply's. It may be better for me (and the buyer) if the buyer to decide how or if they want to strip the mini.
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2012/09/17 21:25:49
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I have used Brake fluid before and I do not recommend it. It works, but it is highly toxic.
For plastic let them soak over night in Simple Green, or Super Clean. Metal with NO Plastic I use Lacquer Thinner, as it only takes about 30 sec of soaking and light brush strokes to remove paint.
When I buy used, how much paint effects how much I bid. Since even well painted models get striped (unless I buy a fully painted army that is well done). I say strip
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On Dakka he was Eldanar. In our area, he was Lee. R.I.P., Lee Guthrie. |
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2012/09/20 07:59:32
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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I wouldn't bother to strip a whole army. Maybe a few models, but I don't think the work put into it would be worth the marginally better prices, unless the models were painted god awful (as in really lumpy, losing detail, or just plain hideous).
All I care about is the quality of the model underneath, I repaint all my stuff. I guess sometimes a really ugly paintjob will deter me from making a purchase, though saving some money can help encourage me against making a purchase.
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2012/09/20 09:25:50
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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jbunny wrote:I have used Brake fluid before and I do not recommend it. It works, but it is highly toxic.
Don't drink the brake fluid after stripping the models.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2012/09/20 10:07:18
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I bought quite a few models (around 30) off ebay which I have stripped so its not a issue to me, however please do not, as I have had a few of, undercoat models which are already painted and advertise them as in primer
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40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
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2012/09/20 14:54:03
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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I usually use Simple Green as it's a relatively safe option, since I live in a town house with no great outside work areas to let stuff sit in.
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Working on someting you'll either love or hate. Hopefully to be revealed by November.
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2012/09/20 16:17:50
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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TAKE IT ALL OFF! WOOOOOO! HERE! HAVE A DOLLAR!
Oh wait...
Oh, riiiight.
Never mind.
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2012/09/21 23:51:20
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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My opinion... if the current paint job does not impact the detail (paints were thinned when they were used) then don't worry about it, especially if it's a plastic figure. If the detail is getting a little "soft" because the paint is thick, then consider stripping.
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2012/09/22 00:40:35
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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When buying used minis, I'd much rather strip the paint myself, since that way I can guarantee it's done to my satisfaction. I expect that used miniatures will need some work, regardless of whether or not they've been stripped, so I wouldn't really pay more for bare metal.
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2012/09/22 03:38:11
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
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Strip for the better money but don't expect much either way. I've bought a significant portion of what I have of Ebay and the paint took awhile to pull off. Simple green is great and non-toxic for those of you with kids! But the metals does fair better and easier than plastic.
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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:This line of reasoning broke 7th edition in Fantasy. The books should be as equal as possible, even a theoretical "Codex: Squirrels with Crustacean allies" should have a fair chance to beat "Codex: God".
 Redbeard wrote:
- Cost? FW models cost more? Because Thudd guns are more expensive than Wraithknights and Riptides. Nope, not a good argument. This is an expensive game. We play it knowing that, and also knowing that, realistically, it's cheaper than hookers and blow.
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2012/09/23 08:18:44
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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yeah, It's not really worth the supplies and time put into preparing the models. Unless you're an excellent painter, the hours of work put into models doesn't really translate into extra money when selling, it's a given the hobby has many hours of work put into it.
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2012/09/26 04:21:06
Subject: To strip, or not to strip?
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Jealous that Horus is Warmaster
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To strip!
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