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Need some help reviewing this. It is an all comers list that I'm hoping will be a little competitive. Any input is appreciated

HQ
Captain
Bike
Relic blade
165


TROOP


Bike squad 1
Plasma pistol
Plasma
Plasma
Bolter
Bolter
*
Bolter
Bolter
Bolter
Multi
Melta
310


Bike squad 2
Plasma pistol
Plasma
Plasma
Bolter
Bolter
*
Bolter
Bolter
Bolter
Multi
Melta
310


Tactical squad 1
10 marines
Drop pod
Flamer
Pwr wp
220


Tactical squad 2
10 marines
Drop pod
Flamer
Pwr wp
220


FAST
Landspeeder
MultiMelta
60


ELITE
Dreadnought
MultiMelta
Drop pod
Heavy Flamer
150


HEAVY
Predator
Autocannon
Dozer Blade
65


1500


Thanks all
   
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Houston, TX

I haven't seen a case in which having a full bike squad is useful. Typically people load the Attack Bikes MM into the Fast Attack slot while keep dual plasma + one MM Attack Bike as Troop.

I would suggest you try both variations to see which you prefer more.

For the Tactical Squad that has a Flamer, might as well take a free Heavy Bolter for those lucky snap firing shots. It's not like 2 shots of bolters would kill people.

I would also remove the Predator and take Land Speeder with MM/HF or dual MM.
   
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Agree on the bikes. There use is that a small squad can have two special weapons and an attack bike. Sergeant and extra man are ablative wounds before you reach the plasma/melta.

Captain on a bike is great with artificer armour. Find the points for this upgrade.

"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson 
   
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leohart wrote:
I haven't seen a case in which having a full bike squad is useful. Typically people load the Attack Bikes MM into the Fast Attack slot while keep dual plasma + one MM Attack Bike as Troop.

I would suggest you try both variations to see which you prefer more.

For the Tactical Squad that has a Flamer, might as well take a free Heavy Bolter for those lucky snap firing shots. It's not like 2 shots of bolters would kill people.

I would also remove the Predator and take Land Speeder with MM/HF or dual MM.


I am sorry but I respecfully disagree. I play my bikes all the time and in 6th ed they are insane. You need full size units. You can combat squad in missions that use objective and in kill missions 10 T5 guys is pretty hard to kill compared to most scoring units. 10 bikes can get 10 hammer of wraths. They have a 5+ jink (4+ if boosted) and are scoring with the captain.

I would drop the relic blade and give him artificer armor. a T5 guy with a 2+ armor is boss this edition as power weapons are a joke vs him.

The tacticals are ok and I agree you should definitely take a heavy weapon in them. The H bolter is free and you have a chance of hits and later in the game they are way more effective.

Also I like power fists on the bike sgts. Yes you dont like combat much with them but they are tactical squads that basically move faster. Still need to kill characters and power armor guys.

Double tap twin bolters, charge with hammer of wraith, then power fist and kill. Very effective squads.

Also switch the dread in a drop pod to a vindicator. You really suffer in battles vs. hoard armies and the dread is too easy to to kill with hull points. I feel like dreads are really bad this edition (not including riflemen who are transport glancing machines!) By changing to a vindicator you will have 25 points left over and can then put heavy bolter sponsons on the predator making it very good vs infantry and enemy transports!

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Fresh-Faced New User





Thanks all,

and icelord, that is correct. I do want the full squads and have divided them into combat squads in my list. This is to divide targets and have an element to deal with armor and MEQ in each squad.

I will definitely upgrade the drop squads for some HBs. Also agree on the artificer armor, I will make the changes.


It seems like the general consensus is the predator needs some work. My original thought was a cheap, AV 13 distraction. I guess I need to rework this....
   
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I personally like predators with 1 auto cannon and 2 las. Most effective vs transport and tanks.

Vindicators rock faces now as the whole template is S10 vs tanks! And they kill infantry like a beast too!

~Ice~
Da' Burnin Couch 2018 Best Overall
Beef and Wing ITC Major GT Best Overall 2018
2019 ITC #1 Overall Best Admech
LVO 2019 #1 Admech 
   
 
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