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alright played a game on sunday against a fellow dakkaite, and he was playing orks with warbuggies out the wazoo. so after he disembarks and I kill all his boyz, he does this annoying tactic of tankshocking the empty transports, making me have to make leadership saves every time. is there anything I can do to stop this?

(also I'm ticked I never thought of this before )

Blow up the tanks?

If he has trucks, they're just AV10. Shoot the heck out of them.

Battlewagons are a little harder to kill. Either put your empty transports or terrain/ruins and such in front of them, or shoot them, or have high leadership on the table when you play him.

1. Did they all have reinforced rams? Otherwise they cannot tank shock as they are not tanks.

2. What army are you playing?

3. Did you death or glory against any of them after you passed the leadership test?

4. To answer your question...either kill all his vehicles or no.

Are you talking about warbuggies or tanks, Tiger9?

Yeah, tank shock is nowhere near as bad as it was in 5th. In some games, I was tank shocking on the order of 10-20 times in one game.

 Lightcavalier wrote:
1. Did they all have reinforced rams? Otherwise they cannot tank shock as they are not tanks.

2. What army are you playing?

3. Did you death or glory against any of them after you passed the leadership test?

4. To answer your question...either kill all his vehicles or no.

Trukks don't need a reinforced ram to tank shock. They just get +2 to front armor when ramming and maybe for death or glory (cant remember) as well as re-roll on difficult terrain


IDK if warbuggies can tank shock or not though. I imagine so.

Trukks aren't tanks.


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So the RR gives the ability to Tank Shock.

 pretre wrote:
Trukks aren't tanks.


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So the RR gives the ability to Tank Shock.

I realize trukks aren't tanks but does the RR entry really say it grants them the ability as if they didn't have it already?

It's been a minute since I have looked but, thought the reinforced ram specifically mentioned +2 to front armor etc.

RR says it allows the vehicle to tank shock.

 pretre wrote:
RR says it allows the vehicle to tank shock.

That's rough. Thought they could without it (not that I've ever tried). When someone said that it allowed them that, it seemed like I had read it before, but was unsure why in my mind I kept thinking +2 FA / re roll terrain only

well he mostly used warbuggies and I think a looted battle wagon after I shot off it's gun.

I play codex marines and I have cato sicarius as my hq, so ld10 all around. I just find it so annoying that he does it all the time

Warbuggies can't tank shock...

Just call him out on it. As stated above, from what it looks like most of his army cant tank shock to begin with.

Only units with the entry "TANK" in their unit profile can tank shock.

A Trukk is not a "TANK" so it cannot tank shock unless you take the Reinforced Ram upgrade, that explicitly gives it that ability.

1) as others have said, he needs a reinforced Ram to be able to tank shock with his non-tank vehicle.
2)... your space marines. If he tank shocks you, charge the vehicle? 10 S6 attacks hitting on 3+ against open topped AV10. Seriously. Just eat them like the snacks they are.
3) Warbuggies are not tanks. Cannot tank shock.
4) If his warbuggies are close enough to tank shock, please read point 2, remove the words "open topped", and reapply to warbuggies
5) You do know they are 2 different units? It's just in the OP you say "...he was playing orks with warbuggies out the wazoo. so after he disembarks and I kill all his boyz, he does this annoying tactic of tankshocking the empty transports..." Is he disembarking out of warbuggies?

yes he was, but he started tank shocking after the guys inside came out.

It's truks with rams. They are AV10 open topped HP2 so just blow them up with krak grenades or even bolter rounds. Also if you get tank shocked death or glory with a melta bomb or melta gun.

Here is some math hammer.

Odds of a melta gun/bomb not penetrating during a death or glory 1/36

AP1 damage chart for open topped vehicles eating a penetrating hit during a death or glory

1) Weapon destroyed, model performing death or glory gets squashed.
2) Immobilized model performing death or glory doesn't get squashed
3,4,5,6) Truk explodes, consult ork rulebook for ramshackle, moodel performing death or glory doesn't get squahed.

Just to nit pick trukks aren't HP2...

 Jihallah wrote:
1) as others have said, he needs a reinforced Ram to be able to tank shock with his non-tank vehicle.
2)... your space marines. If he tank shocks you, charge the vehicle? 10 S6 attacks hitting on 3+ against open topped AV10. Seriously. Just eat them like the snacks they are.
3) Warbuggies are not tanks. Cannot tank shock.
4) If his warbuggies are close enough to tank shock, please read point 2, remove the words "open topped", and reapply to warbuggies
5) You do know they are 2 different units? It's just in the OP you say "...he was playing orks with warbuggies out the wazoo. so after he disembarks and I kill all his boyz, he does this annoying tactic of tankshocking the empty transports..." Is he disembarking out of warbuggies?

Warbuggies are open topped, too

I think the OP confuses Warbuggies and Trukks, hence all the ensuing... confusion. But maybe I'm wrong.

 mrwhoop wrote:
Just to nit pick trukks aren't HP2...

Those ramshackle deathtraps are HP3? Ow well my 1st point still stands, they explode/roll ramshackle on a 3+ from a penetrating melta hit.

Nym wrote:I think the OP confuses Warbuggies and Trukks, hence all the ensuing... confusion. But maybe I'm wrong.

You're probably right

schadenfreude wrote:

 mrwhoop wrote:
Just to nit pick trukks aren't HP2...

Those ramshackle deathtraps are HP3? Ow well my 1st point still stands, they explode/roll ramshackle on a 3+ from a penetrating melta hit.

Or you could just blow all their hull points off with two heavy bolters

sorry for the confusion, I think he was using both.