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HQ
Biker Captain: 170 pts
Artificer armor
Power sword
Melta bombs

Troops:
SM Bikes x 5: 185 pts
Combi-melta
Power Weapon
2x meltaguns

SM Bikes x 5: 195 pts
Combi-plasma
Power weapon
2x plasma guns

Tactical Squad x 10: 185 pts
Flamer/ML
Teleport homer

Rhino: 45 Pts
S.B.

Razorback: 50pts
SB/HB

Heavy Support
Vindicators x2: 250 pts
SB/SB

Total: 1080 pts

Deathwing allies:

Belial: 130 pts
TH/SS

Terminator Squad x2: 490pts
AC/AC

Total: 620pts

Will the teleport homer from the tac squad work with the DA termies? I still have 150 points to spend, can't decide on what I should run. I could do ADL/quad gun, a bare bones bike squad, TLAC dread, 2x stripped predators...something else?

How about this:

HQ Biker Captain 170

Elite: Assault Terminators 200

Troop: Bikers 185
Bikers 195
Bikers 185

Heavy Vindicator 125
Vindicator 125

1185

Belial 130
DW: AC & ChF 250
DW: AC & ChF 250
3x Ravenwing

It switches you to bikes and terminators...

1st Turn the RW bikes scout move and you drop in 1 DW squad with Belial using Deathwing deployment.

Now you have a bunch of bikes to move forward.

2nd Turn you have the other DW terminator and the regular termies to drop in.

If you don't like the generic termies, I would add as many assault bikes with MM that you can. Then switch all your regular bikers to plasma guns so they can stand off. Give the 2 ravenwing bikers Meltas as they get the scout move and can beat down an enemy vehicle.

Did you put the points cost for the ravenwing bikes up with the bike troops? If not its sitting at 1815 without them included. I do like generic termies. I was trying to squeeze in the tac squad and transports because I just painted them and they came out nice.

How are you getting the second transport in the list?

Leave off SB from vindis although on razors they work if you not grinding forward

Your list is good. DAaddicts list is better but your will work well once you play it a few times

Wolfsblood wrote:
Did you put the points cost for the ravenwing bikes up with the bike troops? If not its sitting at 1815 without them included. I do like generic termies. I was trying to squeeze in the tac squad and transports because I just painted them and they came out nice.

Darn it you are right. 45 points when you really need 150 to take 3 with 2 plasma rifles... Well I guess my suggestion would be to lose one Vindicator. I think the teleport homer/scout move is worth it. I would also then lose the melta guns on both bike squads for plasma. That would give you better stand off abilities since you don't have to get so close and when you do they pop off 4 shots instead of 2. If we go down that route, it would be nice to have meltas on the ravenwing bikers- it is not a troop, can scout move and has a good potential to get up close and personal early and pop a tank.

Since we're down to 1 vindi - perhaps 2 or 3 attack bikes with multi-meltas. I know that means losing the templates but it also means everything in your army either has T5 or 2+ armor. Not bad and the mobility of the MM attack bikes might work just as well especially with 3 bike squads pumpin 6 plasma shots into whatever the MM bikers cause to spill out.

HQ Biker Captain 170

Elite: Assault Terminators 200

Troop: Bikers 195
Bikers 195
Bikers 195
955
770
1725

1 Attack Bike w MM
1 Attack Bike w MM

100

1825

You could take the Vindi instead of the attack bikes or if you can shave 25 points, you can take a 3rd MM Attack Bike





Belial 130
DW: AC & ChF 250
DW: AC & ChF 250
3x Ravenwing 140

Ok I am definately liking that list and strategy. It works out too because I don't have the vindicators, I was gonna pick a couple up this week...still might The only way I could see getting that extra 25 points is to switch out the ACs for CMLs and drop a CF from one of the DW squads. Might be worth it as I could have one attack bike per bike squad cruising around. Only problem I have is sourcing the CMLs. They are like $15-$20 on ebay. I mocked up a hunter killer missle on top of a terminator and while it is a little large it doesnt look bad.

I would use scout biker if you really want a homer. Also if you are deepstriking the terminators I would have a drop pod with them to back them up.

Otherwise just walk the deathwing with CMLs and use them as cover.

I would also bring stormtalons as some AA firepower, as that would be very useful.