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This is a small list using the Allies FOC. Any Feedback Appreiciated.

HQ (215)
CCS+MoO+OotF
Medpack, 3 Plasma Guns, Plas Pistol on Commander, Carapace Armour

Troops (145)
PlasVets with Carapace Armour

Elites (65)
Marbo

Fast Attack (130)
Vendetta

Heavy Support (195)
Leman Russ Demolisher
Multi-Melta Sponsons

Thanks in advance

Needs more men. While you have a lot of firepower in so little points, if you face an army with similar firepower and they go first or even a durable one, you will be in trouble.

The CCS is very expensive. Neither of those advisors is that amazing really, the MoO in particular is poor-automatic scatter is no good.
Medpack is really pricey for what it does, as is carapace armour on a small squad.
Plasma is always good though, plasma pistol is a maybe though.

Vets are good, but I would drop the Carapace, and with extra points from the HQ this should give you enough points for a second Vet squad, nearly doubling your presence for very little loss.

Marbo is awesome, very good value.

Vendetta at this points level-maybe. Is anything riding inside it?

Demolisher is very powerful, but with the new FAQ making it Heavy, expensive sponsons are less useful.


Hope this is useful.

The Vets were gonna be in the Vend

However then the CCS will take all the anti-infantry turn 1 and die. (unless hiding of course in which case so many upgrades are worthless)

I was actually going to leave them behind on an objective where the Plasma can assist any nearby primary detachment units

I know that demolisher looks good. But with it being a heavy tank now, you probably don't want sponsons with it, they'll be hitting on 6's. Consider something like the non blast variants too. or artillery. You've seen mine in play, you not wanting a piece of that?

Those advisor's aren't really anything flashy tbh, Ootf is now only making opponents on 4+ IF they have reserves. And master of ordnance requires your CCS to stand still at all times to use his ability every turn, leaving them open in later turns. You won't want to rely on the fact of the enemy having massive amounts of units across the board just so you can get a hit on something.

(In my eyes If anything, that 60 points could go towards a squadron of 2basilisks or 3 griffon's easily on your heavy support. I don't really see anything wrong with having a medipack or carapace, just that there's other things that you would prioritise over them or are worth the points more.

That's all i got. Gl on sat in your games

ok, so drop advisors and use the points to upgrade heavy support. couple of basilisks? manticore?

essentially, whatever you think your army is lacking in support. If the list is essentially the one i vs.ed, i'd say barrage would be a fine choice. The antitank used against me was scarabs and doom-scythe, but even then i could still produce a max of 4 barrage shots? So i'd say basilisks. for ap3 goodness, so you can hit troops and tanks too wherever they are.

Hey just had a thought, your army is semi-assaulty? Read up on straken, could put him in the vendetta with melta's. Probably won't work but just a thought.

The advisors, medipack, carapace armor, and possibly the sponsons are the only real fat to be trimmed IMO. More support is likely the way to go for an ally force. I love the manticore myself, but any artillery or an extra vendetta are great.

What's the main force they're backing up?

plus1jeremy wrote:
The advisors, medipack, carapace armor, and possibly the sponsons are the only real fat to be trimmed IMO. More support is likely the way to go for an ally force. I love the manticore myself, but any artillery or an extra vendetta are great.

What's the main force they're backing up?

It's Necrons. 1500pts IIRC, and 750 guard allies.

You have great flyers already with Necrons. I'm not fond of the Vendetta for troop transport, personally. The grav chutes aren't really worth it, which means you have to hover to drop troops. If you want to insert those vets wherever, consider Harker in a Chimera. Infiltrate also confers outflank if you put his squad in reserve.

Milk your IG for their heavy options. A squadron of Russes or Medusas can go a long way.

For instance:

HQ
CCS - x4 plasma, plasma pistol, Chimera

TROOP
Plasmavets - Chimera

ELITE
Marbo

HEAVY
Leman Russ Squadron - x2 Demolishers

That's 740 points. Swap the Russes for Medusas for a bonus 60 points if you like, depending on whether you need rear support or front line armor.

I am lacking front line armour now that S8 can hurt a monolith beyond Immobilising it. I thought about a Vanquisher w/ Lascannon & a standard LRBT as well, would they go amiss in the list?

And yes, 1500 Necrons is primary detachment.


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Re-Worked my list, got 200 Points left for HS. Suggestions?