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Power gamers unite what are your thoughts of this list !!

Njal Terminator Armor Divination 270pts
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
X10 Grey Hunters x2 Plasma Guns Banner 170pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 Plasma Guns Banner 170pts
Primaries Psyker Biomancy 70pts
Platoon Command Squad x2 Meltaguns Chimera (Hull Heavy Bolter) 105pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Chimera (Hull Heavy Bolter) 125pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Chimera (Hull Heavy Bolter) 125pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Chimera (Hull Heavy Bolter) 125pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
X3 Heavy Weapon Squad Autocannons 75pts
X3 Heavy Weapon Squad Autocannons 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
1750pts

Basically nobody goes in chimera except Platoon Squad, blob squad pushs center and grey hunters and lone wolves push from the side autocannons stay on back objectives and act as support, with the chimeras. Basically the chimeras are their for the fire support and hopefully can draw some fire away from the blob squad. Because the multi laser and heavy bolter shots will be something a person needs to deal with. Njal and Psyker go in blob squad and keep using powers on the squad.

I think you're spending too many points on Njal now that he can't down flyers.

I'd recommend dropping him in favor of two rune priests. One generates cover for the blob with Stormcaller, the other twin-links the blob with Prescience. Put them on opposite sides of the blob to extend your power denial bubble.

I think the chimeras are a waste of points and provide easy first blood targets.

I'd suggest you drop them all, add a 3rd lone wolf, and start plugging in more grey hunters.

Also your blob needs flamers to discourage charges.

I do like the list, it builds on a solid concept that's proven itself in the NOVA format. But keep in mind one of the strengths of that concept is 40+ power armored bodies on the board supporting the blob.

 GiantKiller wrote:

I think the chimeras are a waste of points and provide easy first blood targets.

I recently found out that vehicles don't count towards 1st blood. They are not "removed as a casualty." I know this is silly, but the chimeras won't affect it.

Njal is not uber competetive. i would rather you put a wolf lord in. Cheaper points and a must kill or he destroys whole units.

2+ armor 3+ inv. is really good on a t5 guy with an 18+ kill range!

Wolf lord does not have that much synergy with this list! Anyway, hmm I guess I could drop njal. Also I would post that on you make da call about whether or not vehicles count as first blood.

In all honesty, for kicks and giggles. I would consider a Rune Priest and Wolf Priest for the Blob just because there's nothing like a Fearless blob that has Stealth and Prescience.

 Griddlelol wrote:

 GiantKiller wrote:

I think the chimeras are a waste of points and provide easy first blood targets.

I recently found out that vehicles don't count towards 1st blood. They are not "removed as a casualty." I know this is silly, but the chimeras won't affect it.

What if the vehicle explodes? Don't you then remove it and replace it with a crater? Or am I just an idiot

Yes but it's not counted as a casualty. It's odd and counter intuitive I know. It seems silly that the enemy who focuses a LRBT down doesn't get first blood, but if I shoot a handful of guardians I do.

Rune Priest Terminator Armor Master of Runes Divination 170pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Storm Caller 100pts
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X5 Long Fangs x4 Missile Launchers 115pts
X5 Long Fangs x4 Missile Launchers 115pts
Primaries Psyker Biomancy 70pts
Platoon Command Squad x2 Meltaguns 50pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
X3 Heavy Weapon Squad Autocannons 75pts
X3 Heavy Weapon Squad Autocannons 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
1750pts
would this be better ?

 Griddlelol wrote:
Yes but it's not counted as a casualty. It's odd and counter intuitive I know. It seems silly that the enemy who focuses a LRBT down doesn't get first blood, but if I shoot a handful of guardians I do.

Interesting, thanks for the advice.

One qualm that I have is the HWSs. They look like first blood to me, and if you drop both, you can get another vendetta. It's just a suggestion, however; if they work for you, keep using them.

Then what is it counted as, also wouldn't it be removed once if it explodes?

I recently found out that vehicles don't count towards 1st blood. They are not "removed as a casualty." I know this is silly, but the chimeras won't affect it.
-Griddlelol

Who exactly gave you this terrible advice?

Of course vehicles can give up first blood. GW uses the term "removed as a casualty" interchangeably with other terms like "destroyed" and "removed" not just throughout the rulebook, but within the first blood rule itself. See BGB p. 122. These terms mean the same thing in the context of the first blood rule. ANY unit, regardless of unit type or how it was destroyed, can grant first blood.

The fact that you hedged your bet with "I know this is silly" suggests you don't even believe 100% in the position you're arguing.

No wolf priest? Wolf priest+saga+talisman of the hunter in blob. Fearless, PE, stealth, and 5+ vs psychic to the whole blob. Makes plasma almost never overheat and, once you cross 40 man blobs, its actually more efficient to have PE than another 120 points in guardsmen.

Rune Priest Terminator Armor Master of Runes Divination 170pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Storm Caller 100pts
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X5 Long Fangs x4 Missile Launchers 115pts
X5 Long Fangs x4 Missile Launchers 115pts
Primaries Psyker Biomancy 70pts
Platoon Command Squad x2 Meltaguns 50pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe 70pts
X3 Heavy Weapon Squad Autocannons 75pts
X3 Heavy Weapon Squad Autocannons 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
1750pts
would this be better ?
-Necronsftw

I think this list is stronger than your first, but you're still spending too many points on HQs.

You don't need to spend 70 points on terminator armor or master of runes for your runepriest. Spend those points on more grey hunters, or a special weapons squad in your platoon to ride in the vendetta so your PCS can deploy on the board to give orders to the blob. I'd drop the autocannon teams in favor of more grey hunters, too, for the reason Ghastli pointed out - heavy weapons teams are too easy to wipe out for first blood. The PCS has a similar problem, but they're a mandatory selection, and you can hide them out of LOS completely since they don't need to shoot anything. Just give the blob a "tail" of models extending back into orders range of the PCS. Speaking of which, the PCS doesn't need melta guns if you're going to hide it, try sticking a mortar team in instead. And the infantry squads still need flamers.

I like the heavy weapon squads cause of fire support, however I will try something like this

Rune Priest Divination 100pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Storm Caller 100pts
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
Primaries Psyker Biomancy 70pts
Platoon Command Squad 30pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
1750pts

 necronsftw wrote:
I like the heavy weapon squads cause of fire support, however I will try something like this

Rune Priest Divination 100pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Storm Caller 100pts
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
Primaries Psyker Biomancy 70pts
Platoon Command Squad 30pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
1750pts

Since this really is not a mobile list, I would drop the power axes for AC in the units.. Alternatively, drop something to get transports for the grey hunters.

Well this is incorrect the entire purpose is to move forward in the middle of the board, so having autocannons is not efficient, also rhinos just give up first blood.

Rune Priest Divination 100pts
Rune Priest Jaws of the World Wolf Storm Caller 100pts
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
Lone Wolf Terminator Armor Chainfist Storm Shield 85
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X10 Grey Hunters x2 meltaguns banner 165pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
X6 Long Fangs x5 Missile Launchers 140pts
Primaries Psyker Biomancy 70pts
Platoon Command Squad 30pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Infantry Squad Krak Grenades Power Axe Flamer 75pts
Vendetta 130pts
1750pts
-necronsftw

This is my favorite so far. Give it a few tries (never judge a list on one game) and let us know how it works out for ya. Best of luck!