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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:35:23
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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I'm sure this question has been asked before on this board but I can't seem to find a good answer in the ork codex.
Page 34 lists the KFF as something that the Mekboy can take, but doesn't give a point cost.
Page 97 lists the cost of a KFF as 50 points, but that is for a Big Mek.
Meks are described on page 99 where it says that you can upgrade a loota to a mek, but only says you can upgrade from a shoota or slugga to a rokkit launcha. No mention of a KFF is made.
To make it even more confusing, on page 2 of the faq, the ntry for kff describes the kff in terms of a mek.
I'm trying to take a KFF to protect my battlewagon, but I don't want to take up an HQ spot with a Big Mek. I'm already taking lootas, so I'd like to upgrade one of the lootas to a mek and get the KFF.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:37:28
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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If it's not listed in the options for the unit with a points cost, it can't be taken. Only Big Meks have the option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:42:40
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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You should read the FAQ, maybe there is something on it there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:44:14
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Brother SRM wrote:If it's not listed in the options for the unit with a points cost, it can't be taken. Only Big Meks have the option.
Brother SRM is right on the money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:47:08
Subject: Re:Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Mutating Changebringer
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Only Big Meks get the KFF. It's pretty self explainitory in the codex.
The entires in the beginning of th book just show what the gear and models can do.
The entires in the back tell you who can take what and how many points it costs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:50:11
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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You should read my post, because I already mentioned that the faq is ambiguous.
From page 2 of the faq:
"Page 34 – Mekboyz, Kustom Force Field. Change the second sentence to read “A kustom force field gives all units within 6" of the Mek a cover save of 5+. Friendly vehicles within 6" are counted as being obscured and have a 5+ cover save”.
Here it explicitly associates the KFF with the Mekboy. When describing the operation of the kff, it only says "Mek" and not "Big Mek".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:53:17
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Regardless of the Mek verses Big Mek ambiguity, only the Big Meks can take them, unfortunately. If Mek Boys could take them, there would be a cost listed...and I'd take them in all of my Loota Squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 17:57:47
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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The FAQ may be ambiguous, but the codex is not:
Brother SRM wrote:If it's not listed in the options for the unit with a points cost, it can't be taken. Only Big Meks have the option.
They wrote Mekboyz instead of Big Meks; it's basically just a typo or an afterthought. Grots can't take KFFs either, since it's not in their codex entry. Mekboyz in Loota sqauds don't have the option listed or a points cost, so it's once again not something they can take.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/25 22:54:40
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Yep, normal mekboyz can't take a KFF. Chalk it up to GW 's usual problem of not being able to say what they mean. They could clear things up, but that would be work and might actually result in balanced army lists.
But yeah, by the fluff, normal mekboys should be able to take a KFF.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/26 09:04:00
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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Big Meks should also be able to take a KFF and a bike or MA at the same time, but sadly, they can't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/26 19:14:51
Subject: Can Mekboyz take a kff?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Only big meks can take it unfortunately.
If it isnt listed as something a unit can buy in the back of the codex, they can't take it.
I wish I could give all my guardsmen demo charges, but the codex wont let me.
Sorry OP, no matter how ambigious the FAQ may be, the codex clearly states only big meks can buy one.
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