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Say one of the C'tans managed to become whole again by fusing all its lost shards, what would happen? would the other factions be able to defend from this? what would this c;'tan shard do and how would it effect the current factions?

Since we know more about the 4 here are the scenarios
scenario 1 - the Nightbringer becomes whole again
scenario 2 - the Deceiver becomes whole again
scenario 3 - the Voud Dragon becomes whole again
scenario 4 - the Outsider becomes whole again

Which shard would cause the most problem? which would be the hardest for the other factions to deal with? which would be the scariest to fight against?

Scenario 1, Nightbringer: If this guy got back together, many worlds would be utterly destroyed, but his presence would be made known quite rapidly. Most likely, there would be a desperate alliance between the Necrons, Imperium, and Eldar as none want to see such a being of brute might roam free through out the stars.

Scenario 2, Deceiver: I would not be surprised if he assumed the identity of a high ranking official within the Imperium. From there, he'd probably help guide the Imperium in wreaking vengeance upon the Necrons and finish sweeping up the spawn of the old ones. Then I would not be surprised if he found a way to convince the Imperium that he's the God Emperor incarnate...

Scenario 3, Void Dragon: Perhaps the most frightful of all, I could see him reinstating the protocols that had allowed the silent king utter control of the necrons but keeping it for himself. Return of the Old Crons under the reign of pretty much the master of the Materium.

Scenario 4, The Outsider: Too many possibilities, how does one predict the actions of true and utter insanity and madness? He doesn't plan, he just does.

Ever see the shootout at the OK Corral?
No....why?

Well...A lot of people died

Scenario 1 : Prepare your anus
Scenario 2 : Prepare your anus
Scenario 3 : Prepare your anus
Scenario 4 : Prepare your anus

In other words, very, very bad things will happen to just about everyone in the galaxy.

If the Necrons were aware the C'tan became whole again they would quickly mobilize to break it again. It would unite quite alot of them.

 Grey Templar wrote:
If the Necrons were aware the C'tan became whole again they would quickly mobilize to break it again. It would unite quite alot of them.

Gotta remember though, the Necrons do not have the numbers they had when they first broke the C'tan and that they are scattered throughout the galaxy with many of them still sleeping. Quickly mobilize, yes, but the likelihood of them being able to take on the C'tan again? Very questionable.

I think they could handle one C'tan. There were a whole bunch of C'tan when they originally broke them. Now in this situation there would be just one.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I think they could handle one C'tan. There were a whole bunch of C'tan when they originally broke them. Now in this situation there would be just one.

And before they had a unified empire. Now its just a bunch of factions, who don't have the firepower they had before hibernation.
Besides, chances are the C'tan will be ready for them. You have to remember that the reason why the necrons won the first time around was because the C'tan were taken by surprise. This time it would be different.

I'd be more interested in what the Chaos Gods could/would do...

 Just Dave wrote:
I'd be more interested in what the Chaos Gods could/would do...

They would most likely try to stop the C'tan any chance they get in order to ensure the survival of their food/belief supply. It will be very, very difficult though, as demons aren't that powerful in the material universe (unless there is a strong warp presence, I would think).

If a C'Tan became whole again, Prince Yriel would destroy it with his badass spear.

The worst would be it the Void Dragon became whole because for starter, the Imperium would likely be looking at a Civil War between the Adeptus Mechanicus and the rest of the Empire. And who needs the Necrons if you already have an army.

 King Pariah wrote:
Scenario 3, Void Dragon: Perhaps the most frightful of all, I could see him reinstating the protocols that had allowed the silent king utter control of the necrons but keeping it for himself. Return of the Old Crons under the reign of pretty much the master of the Materium.

You forgot to mention the part where I destroy the solar system Terra happens to reside in, dammit.

Which leads to a victory for Chaos, since the Emperor can no longer stop the Chaos Gods from spilling into the Materium.

Whoops.

Without the power from from the Necrotry life force, I do not think they will be as awe-powerful as they were. At best ya get the same power level at which the Necron pawned them.

Unless they have some way to mass in numbers and feed themselves an obscene amount of life force, they are not gonna be big boy players for some time.

 Hunterindarkness wrote:
Without the power from from the Necrotry life force, I do not think they will be as awe-powerful as they were. At best ya get the same power level at which the Necron pawned them.

Unless they have some way to mass in numbers and feed themselves an obscene amount of life force, they are not gonna be big boy players for some time.

"Obscene amount of life force" Hmmm.... How many people are in the Imperium of Man at this point? How much life force would that equate to? By my calculations its roughly "obscene"

However, they would, like the Necrotry, have to willing give it to them or at lest use the flesh forges. Unless it is done on a galaxy wide scale, consuming the whole of the human race, you will see no where near the same power level as the old days.

But if the Adeptus Mechanicus decided to continue following their Ommnisiah then I am quite confident they could find ways of "convincing" the populace to do such acts. Or it could possibly trick the silly Tau into thinking it was all for the greater good

The C'tan at base levels of power could devour stars, and apparently a "mere" shard could give the God Emperor a hell of a fight.

That's still sufficient to bring Terra down to its knees if the Dragon is reconstructed.

The necrons would collectively wet themselves as the C'Tan are royally pissed at what they did.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The C'tan at base levels of power could devour stars, and apparently a "mere" shard could give the God Emperor a hell of a fight.

That's still sufficient to bring Terra down to its knees if the Dragon is reconstructed.

New or old fluff. From what i have, that kind of power level was only reached after the deal they made with the necrotyr and after the old one throw down most of that power was gone. Enough so that the Necrons overthrew them and made them lackies.

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The C'tan at base levels of power could devour stars, and apparently a "mere" shard could give the God Emperor a hell of a fight.

That's still sufficient to bring Terra down to its knees if the Dragon is reconstructed.

When it was written they weren't shards, so that was the actual Void Dragon vs. the Emperor.

Due to the C'tan change to shards its probably best to ignore that piece of fluff when gauging power levels as its out-dated, or you can take it as it was seemingly originally intended; that the Big E could match a (presumably weakened) C'tan.

As well, it was never stated that they could instantly or near-instantly devour stars, to my knowledge. The process of feeding off of a star's energy could have taken decades, or centuries.

 Hunterindarkness wrote:

 Void__Dragon wrote:
The C'tan at base levels of power could devour stars, and apparently a "mere" shard could give the God Emperor a hell of a fight.

That's still sufficient to bring Terra down to its knees if the Dragon is reconstructed.

New or old fluff. From what i have, that kind of power level was only reached after the deal they made with the necrotyr and after the old one throw down most of that power was gone. Enough so that the Necrons overthrew them and made them lackies.

But after the necrons took them by surprise and focused all of their firepower on the C'tan, and even then it was a hell of a fight.
As I said before, if the C'tan were made whole again, the necrons won't have that advantage. The C'tan will expect them to fight, and they will take back what was theirs.

Except this isn't "the C'tan" versus the Necrons. This is "a c'tan" restored. The Necron empire now is barely a fraction of what it once was- but on the other hand, the C'Tan army that the Necrons pwn'd back in the day was also a thousand times bigger than what we've got here, which is a single C'Tan.

So I don't really see how the size of the Cron empire back than compared to now is really relevant to the thread topic.

Deceiver.
How effective could your weapons and soldiers be when you have been tricked and cant bring them to bear were there needed.

It would eat a lot of systems until a chapter of Space Marines, the Selfless Sacrificers, selflessly sacrificed themselves to seal it and bring the status quo back.

It is 40K, after all.

 Hunterindarkness wrote:
New or old fluff. From what i have, that kind of power level was only reached after the deal they made with the necrotyr and after the old one throw down most of that power was gone. Enough so that the Necrons overthrew them and made them lackies.

No, they were eating stars long before they were compressed into Necrodermis shells.


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 Sephyr wrote:

It would eat a lot of systems until a chapter of Space Marines, the Selfless Sacrificers, selflessly sacrificed themselves to seal it and bring the status quo back.

It is 40K, after all.

^ Best answer. ^

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 Hunterindarkness wrote:
New or old fluff. From what i have, that kind of power level was only reached after the deal they made with the necrotyr and after the old one throw down most of that power was gone. Enough so that the Necrons overthrew them and made them lackies.

No, they were eating stars long before they were compressed into Necrodermis shells.

Not what my codex says. From what I am seeing they could only interact with the rest of the universe though those shiny metal bodies and only though taking life force with the flesh forges did they gain such power.

They fed off stars from the dawn of time. They could always interact with the material world. They just weren't aware or impressed with it.

Once they were compressed they developed a taste for the energy of living organisms. That's where the forges came from.

I'll take your word for it. I do not know the old fluff and the new books says nothing about that as far as I recall.