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Thank you, Internet, for reminding me how bad I am at painting. I think I need to add a few more coats of the gemstone paints. It does add a nice gloss to the eyepieces. I need to try it on my Blood Angels, I put more effort into their gems.
SickSix wrote: So are Armor Values just going to be completely done away with? Because at this point that would great.
Give vehicles a toughness value, but keep the facings and give each facing a save value. Might help balance out the difference between high strength low AP single shots and weap AP mid strength weight of fire. Grav would still be a problem though.
So I picked up one of the FW event minis earlier today.
He has his own set of rules. Can't easily take a picture of them currently so I'll just transcribe them here:
Legion Praetor Tribune - 180pts
WS 6|BS 5|S 4|T 4|W 3|I 5|A 4(5*)|Ld 10|Sv 2+
Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear: Master-crafted Paragon Blade
Iron Halo
Digital Lasers* (hence the 5 attacks)
Tartaros pattern Terminator Armour
Special Rules: Legiones Astartes
Master of the Legion
Independent Character
Exemplary Tribute
Exemplary Tribute: This profile represents a common pattern of deployment for the many lesser Praetors that existed during the glory days of the Space Marine Legions. A Legion Praetor Tribune may be included as a HQ choice in a Space Marine Legion army selected from the Legiones Astartes - Age of Darkness Army list, but may not be given any other options or wargear. It uses the same additional Legion rules as the other units of the detachment it is included in, as per the Legiones Astartes special rule.
A similarly armed Praetor costs about 15pts more but has a combi-bolter. Nothing too special overall.
He has his own set of rules. Can't easily take a picture of them currently so I'll just transcribe them here:
Legion Praetor Tribune - 180pts
WS 6|BS 5|S 4|T 4|W 3|I 5|A 4(5*)|Ld 10|Sv 2+
Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear: Master-crafted Paragon Blade
Iron Halo
Digital Lasers* (hence the 5 attacks)
Tartaros pattern Terminator Armour
Special Rules: Legiones Astartes
Master of the Legion
Independent Character
Exemplary Tribute
Exemplary Tribute: This profile represents a common pattern of deployment for the many lesser Praetors that existed during the glory days of the Space Marine Legions. A Legion Praetor Tribune may be included as a HQ choice in a Space Marine Legion army selected from the Legiones Astartes - Age of Darkness Army list, but may not be given any other options or wargear. It uses the same additional Legion rules as the other units of the detachment it is included in, as per the Legiones Astartes special rule.
A similarly armed Praetor costs about 15pts more but has a combi-bolter. Nothing too special overall.
Bummer. Nothing special. What a wasted opportunity, FW!
He has his own set of rules. Can't easily take a picture of them currently so I'll just transcribe them here:
Legion Praetor Tribune - 180pts
WS 6|BS 5|S 4|T 4|W 3|I 5|A 4(5*)|Ld 10|Sv 2+
Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear: Master-crafted Paragon Blade
Iron Halo
Digital Lasers* (hence the 5 attacks)
Tartaros pattern Terminator Armour
Special Rules: Legiones Astartes
Master of the Legion
Independent Character
Exemplary Tribute
Exemplary Tribute: This profile represents a common pattern of deployment for the many lesser Praetors that existed during the glory days of the Space Marine Legions. A Legion Praetor Tribune may be included as a HQ choice in a Space Marine Legion army selected from the Legiones Astartes - Age of Darkness Army list, but may not be given any other options or wargear. It uses the same additional Legion rules as the other units of the detachment it is included in, as per the Legiones Astartes special rule.
A similarly armed Praetor costs about 15pts more but has a combi-bolter. Nothing too special overall.
Bummer. Nothing special. What a wasted opportunity, FW!
Yet had he had something special there would have been a never ending tirade about how broken he is and why GW is always power creeping.
This is FW - no such thing as power creeping - power is on all the time!
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Yet had he had something special there would have been a never ending tirade about how broken he is and why GW is always power creeping.
Naw man, in 30k, the rules tend to be all crazy and fluffy and stuff. Nothing to fear there. Like how the exclusives they did a while back - the Praevian IW and the Delegatus AL - and all was fine there. This guy could have had some special rule, even if just a variant RoW or fluffy "Terminators as Troops" thing. Anything to make him more appealing than a build-your-own Praetor you can normally get. Sure, 15pt discount is great, but I still have no reason to run him as is.
Not that I won't get the model eventually just to paint and give him some kind of decent head-swap, too. That one is just awful.
MacMuckles wrote: Can't you just run him as a regular praetor and convert him? Use Pride of the Legion for troop termies, and done. It's what I plan to do.
Obviously you can. My point was that they didn't try to give him anything special, when they usually do. Just a wasted opportunity.
I've seen him painted up a couple of different ways now too and I'm not a fan of the model...
The Blackshield though is really nice.
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
i'm off to get mine tomorrow...
love Tartaros armor, love the glaive, and love the head...
so stoked about this mini!!!
been waiting a few weeks for this weekend gonna be fun to paint...
The fact that he is wearing Tartaros is pretty nice. The fact he's a little cheaper is nice, too, so I won't feel so bad running him with Suzerains as I do with the BAC guy. Sweeping time!
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Check out my gallery here Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!!
Check out my gallery here Also I've started taking photos to use as reference for weathering which can be found here. Please send me your photos so they can be found all in one place!!
zedmeister wrote: Just got mine. Lovely piece and the fact that it comes with the rules for the praetor tribune is a nice touch...
Just bought mine. Are the rules inside the pack?
“Because we couldn’t be trusted. The Emperor needed a weapon that would never obey its own desires before those of the Imperium. He needed a weapon that would never bite the hand that feeds. The World Eaters were not that weapon. We’ve all drawn blades purely for the sake of shedding blood, and we’ve all felt the exultation of winning a war that never even needed to happen. We are not the tame, reliable pets that the Emperor wanted. The Wolves obey, when we would not. The Wolves can be trusted, when we never could. They have a discipline we lack, because their passions are not aflame with the Butcher’s Nails buzzing in the back of their skulls.
The Wolves will always come to heel when called. In that regard, it is a mystery why they name themselves wolves. They are tame, collared by the Emperor, obeying his every whim. But a wolf doesn’t behave that way. Only a dog does.
That is why we are the Eaters of Worlds, and the War Hounds no longer."
– Eighth Captain, Khârn
just got my Legion Preator Tribune today...
very dynamic Termie model
i finally cracked open a box of the new Urban bases...
i have to say, the detail is perfect...
just flat enough to fit models on top of without any troubles, unlike my favorite resin bases, and just raised enough to take outlining with paint perfectly...
they may take a little getting used too, at first glance, if you are used to 3rd party resins, but they are really well designed for a combo of paintability and user friendly basing...
i didn't get a look at the walls and debris yet, but if that box is anything like the bases, i will be happy with it...
the base detail is just raised enough that it looks like they will take drybrushing and washing just fine...
i look forward to checking out the rubble...
cheers
jah
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The debris box is nice -- there are lots of familiar pieces that are cut on an angle so that when you lay it flat, one side is raised, while the other sinks into the ground, and other pieces that look like broken bits of the same larger model.
Nothing earth-shattering, and you can get much of the same look from other stuff, but it's very convenient and easy to use. There are some questionable bits, like the lamp stands -- I have like hundreds of those from Sector Imperialis kits, lol. But mostly, I'm pretty happy with the pieces.
I'm with you on the plastic bases. They're great to place models on, and they're a perfect match for sector imperialis.
jah-joshua wrote: i finally cracked open a box of the new Urban bases...
i have to say, the detail is perfect...
just flat enough to fit models on top of without any troubles, unlike my favorite resin bases, and just raised enough to take outlining with paint perfectly...
they may take a little getting used too, at first glance, if you are used to 3rd party resins, but they are really well designed for a combo of paintability and user friendly basing...
I like to take the position that if there is a problem with the bases, it's that the realm of battle board city tiles should have had similarly flat detail... I don't know about the rest of you but as cool as the city boards are lots of models fall over on it too easily.
If you want it to lay flat, you will need to cut the top 1/2' off the top were the hole is on the paper. Once cropped it will fit in this one flat with all the rules on one side.
http://www.ultrapro.com/product_info.php?products_id=1395
(As I side note, these cases are super usefull in warma-hoards and the full page sized ones in D&D since you can write on the bases with dry erase marker for tracking health points. )
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2016/09/13 08:40:31
Subject: Re:GW - New paints & various urban bases (May 28) / Munitorum Armoured Containers (June 4)
Legion: Dark Angels 
5250 pts
3850 pts
2500 pts 
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester 
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k 
6,000pts
3,500pts
2,500pts 
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