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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Actually...


YouKnowsIt wrote:
Did anyone receive a confirmation after e-mailing about the 3 extra miniatures?



Yes, I did in fact receive an e-mail confirmation today that I 'qualify' for the 3 extra miniatures, provided I back for the core box using the same e-mail address as the one used to get the 3 extras.

Of course, this is looking less likely now, given what we think the cost for the core box will end up being, but....I suppose we'l find out soon enough!

Insidious Intriguer 
   
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Been Around the Block




https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/996665814/confrontation-classic-the-legendary-skirmish-game/description
   
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Been Around the Block




The project is live : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/996665814/confrontation-classic-the-legendary-skirmish-game/description
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




UK

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/996665814/confrontation-classic-the-legendary-skirmish-game?ref=nav_search&result=project&term=confrontation

well it's now live

299 Euros for the early bird (2000 of them)
320 Euros normally

not to bad if you want all the minis (and they turn out ok), but it's too expensive for me as I don't

 
   
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Been Around the Block




They still haven't shown a single prototype of their models.

They plan to start their next Kickstarter before they even start production on this one.

They do not respond publicly to questions asked on social media.

For someone in the US this costs roughly $430.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




What other KS are they planning?
   
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Been Around the Block




http://www.sans-detour.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/communique-confresurrection-EN.pdf

They have planned to launch Confrontation Resurrection in 2019, which will be a new game with new minis. They don't have a ton of information right now, but I could swear I read they would be starting it around April 2019.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




I thought it was confirmed that that was not going to KS?
   
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator





Well, it is almost funded already, so...

Not sure if I'll *stay* in, but I'm in for now.

But they really do need to offer a little more clarity on the miniatures, materials and castings before the end, of I think a lot of people will drop out.

Insidious Intriguer 
   
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Courageous Questing Knight





Central Cimmeria

I currently estimate the probability of delivery no more than 1 year late and miniature quality equal to or exceeding the old pre painted plastics to be about 20%.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






Well I'm on board.... For now.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




HaleysRedComet wrote:
They don't have a ton of information right now, but I could swear I read they would be starting it around April 2019.


You are correct!

I'm assuming they'll push back the date if the current KS gets delayed.

Only three comments from a collaborator on the Classic KS. : https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/1940786035/comments

Spoiler:

"And while I'm forgiving of one mishap, this string of incidences suggests the problem is with the project managers, not whom they hire, what materials they are using, what language their backers are using, etc. I do notice that entrepreneurs have more self-confidence than other people, and need it to persevere bad luck and obstacles. But this self-confidence can turn into "do nothing wrong" blindness, which prevents these people from admitting mistakes and improving themselves." -- September 3, 2014 
   
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UK

Interesting - I'll wait and see if models I still want come onto ebay or indivdual sales.

"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
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"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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A Bloody Road - my Warhammer Fantasy Fiction 
   
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Terrifying Rhinox Rider






Wow, I expected at least renders of the scanned miniatures and a quick summary of how they were/are going to optimise them for PVC.
The Kickstarter page literally has no info at all about the product they are selling.


 
   
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot




Burbank, CA

I'm really liking the idea of the main pledge being models from each of the factions. There's plenty in there that I've always wanted.

I'd been collecting the models on and off for years, so I have plenty of them banging around.

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Been Around the Block





It's already been said, but the fact that there are no "final product" sneak peeks, or even any info about the type of plastic makes it a pretty easy no for me.

At this price point, I can't imagine how they'd be able to make decent quality plastics... seems to me that this would be more akin to board game plastics, or something like Reaper Bone?

I'll be following to see if there are any updates on this, but I'm very skeptical.
   
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Trustworthy Shas'vre





Augsburg/Germany

I am leaning back, grabbing my popcorn and watching the train wreck this is probably turning into.

André Winter
L'Art Noir - Game Design and Translation Studio 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Melbourne, Australia

YouKnowsIt wrote:
I thought it was confirmed that that was not going to KS?


It's not.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Plastictrees





Calgary, Alberta, Canada

This feels like a KS from five years ago.
   
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 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
I am leaning back, grabbing my popcorn and watching the train wreck this is probably turning into.


This is an unhelpful and possible unhealthy attitude to have.

Couldn't you instead offer the community something more positive?

I mean sure, there are lots of...warning signs here, but actively wishing for a 'train wreck' seems unnecessarily spiteful.

You could at the very least offer us an alternative game to support instead, right?

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Melbourne, Australia

 Mysterio wrote:
 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
I am leaning back, grabbing my popcorn and watching the train wreck this is probably turning into.


This is an unhelpful and possible unhealthy attitude to have.

Couldn't you instead offer the community something more positive?

I mean sure, there are lots of...warning signs here, but actively wishing for a 'train wreck' seems unnecessarily spiteful.

You could at the very least offer us an alternative game to support instead, right?


He seems to have an unhealthily appetite for negativity, at least with regards to this project. I can only assume Confrontation stole his girlfriend.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Courageous Questing Knight





Central Cimmeria

 .Mikes. wrote:
 Mysterio wrote:
 Duncan_Idaho wrote:
I am leaning back, grabbing my popcorn and watching the train wreck this is probably turning into.


This is an unhelpful and possible unhealthy attitude to have.

Couldn't you instead offer the community something more positive?

I mean sure, there are lots of...warning signs here, but actively wishing for a 'train wreck' seems unnecessarily spiteful.

You could at the very least offer us an alternative game to support instead, right?


He seems to have an unhealthily appetite for negativity, at least with regards to this project. I can only assume Confrontation stole his girlfriend.


I find that it is often the people who were initially the most excited that become the most resentful as the realities of the project are revealed.

"This is the rerelease my beloved XYZ is going to get????"

And to be fair, the only thing positive that this project has going for it is the name.

Just by the odds alone a first time KS creator from a small studio taking on a massive brand/project using new technology they haven't apparently even done a trial run with in order to produce a massive pile of miniatures in China in a notoriously difficult material doesn't exactly have a good chance of success.
   
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Australia

I've been a long time fan of Confrontation, and I have a lot of their metal miniatures, but I am very trepidacious about this KS. I think I will likely have to skip it based on the cost of it, and how little I know about the KS materials being used to make these miniatures. If it were hard sprue plastic, I would be in. Not having any clear indication means I'll likely have to skip.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Meh, KS page has too much warning signs. Literally 0 pictures or renders of what we actually might get...milking old Conf glory to the fullest. If this was any other game I wouldn't even bother with it, after looking at page. No videos, no reviews, no rules...nothing except for the old pictures, because why bother with showing any actually product you are selling, right?

And we are not getting uraken clan...

Yea, best of luck to them. I will pick some metal models later on for cheap if I want, on top of several armies I have.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Melbourne, Australia

Studio Giraldez have announced they're working on Confrontation Resurrection on their FB page, along with resin models.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Trustworthy Shas'vre





Augsburg/Germany

I actually worked for Rackham as a Freelancer back then.

What really made me scratch my head with SD was when the licenzed the game from another company (Stellar) that also belongs to their boss and the xact same company started to sell the masters of the first 100 minis Rackham produced. That´s a very strange thing to do.

André Winter
L'Art Noir - Game Design and Translation Studio 
   
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Italy

I guess these guys are not very conscious of what they doing...

They want to produce "plastic" version of the already sculpted confrontation miniatures, well is near impossible: the old confrontation miniatures were designed for spicast metal mould, no way they can do with it pressure injection moulds, need a lot of engineering and is very hard task for a not digital sculpted model, I guess is a more cheap option if they will resculpt for plastic. The only option they have is produced in PVC, but well, again the model was not designed for PVC, so the result will be a very poor made miniature, not near the quality they had cast in metal or resin.

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 Nizar wrote:
I guess these guys are not very conscious of what they doing...

They want to produce "plastic" version of the already sculpted confrontation miniatures, well is near impossible: the old confrontation miniatures were designed for spicast metal mould, no way they can do with it pressure injection moulds, need a lot of engineering and is very hard task for a not digital sculpted model, I guess is a more cheap option if they will resculpt for plastic. The only option they have is produced in PVC, but well, again the model was not designed for PVC, so the result will be a very poor made miniature, not near the quality they had cast in metal or resin.


Yeah, like it was mentioned before, at this pricepoint it has to be PVC.
For good results, they would need to scan the masters and rework them for the different casting method/material.

They offer no insight of what exactly they have done, though.
You should assume the worst.


 
   
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Augsburg/Germany

They told us the miniatures would be scanned and cleaned up on the computer. But I can´t see how they are going to finance this.

André Winter
L'Art Noir - Game Design and Translation Studio 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Still just images of existing metal models ( the original ones painted by Rackham studio team no less), and no mention that the minis on show are not the minis being offered.

That alone is a huge red flag.

If I could pick one faction, I may have risked €50 on it. But not €300.

   
 
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