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Taking this to an upcoming tournament. Trying to make it as all comers and as shooty as possible. What you guys think?


+ HQ +

* Master of the Forge: Conversion Beamer

+ Elites +

* Dreadnought: Twin-Linked Autocannon , Twin-Linked Autocannon

* Dreadnought: Twin-Linked Autocannon , Twin-Linked Autocannon

* Dreadnought: Twin-Linked Autocannon , Twin-Linked Autocannon

+ Troops +

* Tactical Squad
Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun , Rhino , 9x Space Marine
* Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-Plasma Gun

* Tactical Squad
Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun , Rhino , 9x Space Marine
* Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-Plasma Gun

* Tactical Squad
Missile Launcher, Plasma Gun , Rhino , 9x Space Marine
* Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-Plasma Gun

+ Fast Attack +

* Attack Bike: Multi-Melta

* Attack Bike: Multi-Melta

+ Heavy Support +

* Vindicator

* Vindicator

That looks like a fairly nasty army to come up against however your attack bikes look like they're out on their own white makes them a small and relatively easy to kill target.. Not sure of the paints costs since I missed out on the white dwarf but you might be better served taking a storm talon in your fast attack slot instead of the bikes to fit in a flyer (and another vehicle which goes with your army theme).

Only other note is that your Master of the Forge is running solo since the rhino's are full without him, if you had the points to fit a couple of servitors with him it could give you a few more guns to the list and give him a couple of models to take wounds before he takes them himself, though I wouldnt know what to drop to make up the points.

Well, looks good. Nothing to add.
Alternatively, you could take oneTactical with multimelta, melta, combi-melta, and melta bombs, just for diversity.

The bikes offer a lot, but not to this list. I'd find a way to mount the HQ on a Bike to ensure he has maximum control of his weapon's range.

I'd drop the attack bikes and a dread to get some Devs or something, and turn the Tactical MLs into MM.

 Melcavuk wrote:
That looks like a fairly nasty army to come up against however your attack bikes look like they're out on their own white makes them a small and relatively easy to kill target.. Not sure of the paints costs since I missed out on the white dwarf but you might be better served taking a storm talon in your fast attack slot instead of the bikes to fit in a flyer (and another vehicle which goes with your army theme).

Only other note is that your Master of the Forge is running solo since the rhino's are full without him, if you had the points to fit a couple of servitors with him it could give you a few more guns to the list and give him a couple of models to take wounds before he takes them himself, though I wouldnt know what to drop to make up the points.

Actually since their such small targets (Low profile, not threat) they can zoom behind stuff turn 1 or just ride up behind the Rhinos and then turn 2, 2d6 Melta shot something. Or just move up turn 1 and absorb some shooting for a 50 pt model. Why do you all think the Attack Bike not offer anything to the list? Please explain. I'd like the understand because I thought it'd be a good addition to add that MM shot on a low profile target that can hide or get it's reach turn 1.

I do like the suggestion of dropping them + something for a ML Dev Squad... I've never used one before though. Do you take additional bodies for extra wounds or what? I could drop 1x Dread + both Attack Bikes and get a 10 man Dev Squad with 4 MLs. But the 1x Dread + 2x Attack Bikes offers more shooting (and TL) and 1 extra target (considering I combat squad the Dev squad). Thoughts on this? Also to note: Dropping 1x Dread will make my "anti-flyer" capabilities drop a bit.

MoF won't be alone. He'll be behind with 1 of the ML combat squadded Tactical Squads. They'll likely be shooting the same target and the ML will probably be within range.

I think I will take one with all the Melta loadouts. I think I had that in my original but forgot to put it in this one. Melta all around on one of the squads it is!

Anyone else?

What would you guys suggest replacing the mm attack bikes with?

Nothing, the arguments others have posted are ridiculous. AB have the ability to redeploy quickly, can no longer be instakilled by s8 and have the advantage of combat tactics making them more survivable IMO then land speeders now. Keep them, they compliment the vindicators very well IMO. Use the tank as cover if needed then pop out and open transports first so the vindicator can splash the unit. No to mentions they are clever to grab line breaker and use as a denial unit late game.