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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 16:28:56
Subject: Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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As the title suggests, I am looking to start a chaos army based upon either the Black Legion (more so the personal warband of The Despoiler) or the warband of The Exalted.
I have read the three Night Lords books and the extra bits and I would like some feedback and opinions from you guys on my unit choices.
Night Lords:
The Exalted - Daemon Prince or a very tooled up Chaos Lord.
Deltrian - Warpsmith.
First Claw - Chosen.
Other Claws - Chaos Marines and Raptors.
Legion Serfs - Cultists.
Malcharion - Helbrute.
Atrementar - Terminator Squad.
I also think that First Claw would make a fantastic Kill Squad too.
The Black Legion would basically follow the Codex units, but I was thinking that I could expand the Night Lords to include other characters from their legion like Krieg Acerbus and Zso Sahaal.
I don't know what else I could do to make the Night Lords more characterful or effective on the tabletop.
Any help is welcome.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 16:47:58
Subject: Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Morphing Obliterator
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The problem here are the points on a 2000 you might be able to squish 2 "elite units" (being the chosens and the termies), while keeping the rest cheap. The exalted needs to be a chaos lord since the DP would eat 1/4th of your army points
I'm planning on running a similar list but with warp talons instead of chosen, they are more night lordish as in the legion flavor but if you are after the exalted warband sure chosens sound nice
This is my first draft on a Night Lords army, not so exalted warband but could be a Zso Sahaal lead warband:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/480379.page
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/05 16:56:09
CSM 10k points
IG 3k points
Orks 2k points
WoC 3.5k points
VC 2.5k points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 16:57:12
Subject: Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Yeah, there are only two Elite Infantry Units going in to the list, with Malcharion making up the Helbrute. The rest of the list is quite cheap by comparison. Not sure on the Exalted though. In the books he is like a Daemon Prince, but smaller. He is too big and powerful for a possessed though. I'm not sure how I would go about modelling him. Dembski-Boden replied to this question concerning the Exalted: •“What is the Exalted? A Daemon Prince? A Possessed? A Chaos Lord close to Spawnhood?” This gets explored a little more in Blood Reaver, actually. Seriously, as much as I cleave to the background as described in the codices, you’ve got to realise that the game’s rules don’t always represent the lore all that well. Chaos doesn’t just touch people and say “You’re X, you’re Y, you’re Z.” It’s Chaos. It’s chaotic. Chaos would infuse its victi– uh, its followers with whatever the hell it wanted. Most Chaos Gifts wouldn’t fit neatly into the army lists in the back of a codex, like. That said, I can shed some light on this. Vandred (the VIII Legion 10th Captain) is a lesser consciousness in the creature that is now The Exalted. Cyrion knows this – he comments on it in Soul Hunter. So the Exalted is something like a Daemon Prince in that he’s been, uh, promoted like they have. But with his ascension came possession, like one of the weaker “battlefield” Possessed. In short, he’s either a Daemon Prince that doesn’t fight the way most others do, or he’s a really, really powerful Possessed. Both are true. Or neither. I don’t care, leave me alone.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 17:13:02
Subject: Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Morphing Obliterator
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The downside while in the game is that the Demon Princes in the codex must be of an specific god and they are pretty expensive, a termie lord with mutations might not be as mutated/possesed but it will clearly represent a mighty lord, you can give him the gift of mutation, ichor blood, MoN (to make it as T as a DP), maybe a daemon artifact as well. It won't be an optimum build but it would make him justice
I have only read soul hunter and heard the audio novel, have the other 2 on my book shelf but can't find time to read them :(, so i'm not sure what else does the exalted has
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/10/05 17:14:52
CSM 10k points
IG 3k points
Orks 2k points
WoC 3.5k points
VC 2.5k points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/05 19:00:44
Subject: Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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That's a great idea yayula. Yoinking that. Thanks.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 20:21:02
Subject: Re:Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Just an idea...
Considering how powerful the Exalted is, but is not quite a Daemon Prince, but much more powerful than a Possessed Lord, would Abaddon be a worthy fit for such a character?
It would also help in making First Claw (which would be my only Chosen Unit) a Troops choice and scoring, which befits them greatly.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 20:37:50
Subject: Re:Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
Onuris Coreworld
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Don't do Black Legion man. Its like doing Ultramarines when playing vanilla marines. Its just so generic. Go with Night Lords. Those books are awesome and Talos alone has more personality than the entire Black Legion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 20:43:16
Subject: Having difficulty choosing between two armies of Chaos (Night Lords or Black Legion) - Please help.
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Don't worry - I'm going Night Lords, I'm just having trouble making a character to do The Exalted justice.
I think an Abaddon stand in would be great, but I just wanted everyone else's opinion.
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Mr Mystery wrote:Suffice to say, if any of this is actually true, then clearly Elvis is hiding behind my left testicle, and Lord Lucan behind the right. |
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