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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 21:19:38
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Been Around the Block
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Hi, if I have a Flyer, Hover unit such as the Heldreke... Does he really have 5+cover while moving 6'', 4+cover while moving 7-18'' and no cover at all while moving 19-50''? Making him harder to aim while moving 1'' than 50'' unless he decides to Evade?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 21:56:35
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Yes he really gets the Jink save when in Hover mode but not in zooming unless he evades.
Remember though that in Hover mode it is hit on normal BS, and when Zooming only Snap Shots can hit it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 21:59:34
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Yes. Or possibly partially no. I haven't got a frigging clue what Heldreke's rules are specifically. He needs to turbo-boost to get a 4+ cover which isn't necessarily the same as moving 7-18". Update: Yeah. He needs to turbo-boost to get 4+, more than 12" isn't sufficient since he's a fast skimmer moving a natural 12" only nets you a 5+ cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/06 23:44:54
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Turboboost is what bikes do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 00:07:01
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Flat Out (Flat-out?), then. It's essentially two names for the same concept. Running for vehicles and running for bikes. Without random distance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 06:34:28
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Stormin' Stompa
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But they should be kept apart.
Just like Hull Points and Structure Points should, and Green Tide and horde Orks should.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 09:24:22
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Wicked Warp Spider
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There no longer is a difference between Turbo-boosting and Flat-out. If you wish to keep them apart, then by all means do. Since they are the same according to this chart:
6" Flat-out (non-fast vehicles)
12" Turbo-boost (bikes)
18" Flat-out (fast vehicles)
24" Turbo-boost (jetbikes)
30" Flat-out (Eldar vehicles with Star Engine)
36" Turbo-boost (Eldar jetbikes)
Neither has a restriction on minimum movement, neither improves cover more than the other, and nether has any additional special rules attached to them. So being snarky enough to call someone out on the improper use between the two is childish in my book unless we're dealing with professional commentators or similar (which this hobby really doesn't have). Using one or the other doesn't really clarify what you are doing, you still need to add a whole bunch of extra information to be accurate in what you are communicating. So if you are lazy enough to say "my Reaver will turbo-boost" then you're actually on the same level of laziness as "my Raider will turbo-boost"
Structure points and hull points actually have different rules I should add beyond "this is for super-heavy and that isn't".
Now. Are we done making a huge thing out of a non-issue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/07 10:21:01
Subject: Flyer hover jink
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Citabogue wrote:Hi, if I have a Flyer, Hover unit such as the Heldreke... Does he really have 5+cover while moving 6'', 4+cover while moving 7-18'' and no cover at all while moving 19-50''? Making him harder to aim while moving 1'' than 50'' unless he decides to Evade?
You can think of it this way, a zooming flier gets a 2+ save against being hit (they have to roll 6's to hit) on top of that they get the choice to evade for another save of 5+. They are also immune to blasts and templates while zooming. That's much better than a measly 4+ cover save. In the case of a Heldrake, it never has to evade because it gets a 5++ at all times so it can always fire.
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