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Pasadena

So here are my initial thoughts on a list I can actually play with only purchasing a few models.

HQ

Dark Apostle MoT

Dark Apostle

Troops

30 Cultists 3x Flamer (1 Dark Apostles goes here)

30 Cultists 3x Stubber 30 Autoguns

20 CSM 2x Plasmaguns IoT, IoF, VotLW, PF on Champ

Fast

15 Raptors 2xMeltaguns, PF Champ, MoK, IoW VotLW

Heavy

10 Havocs 4ML, Flaak, MoS, IoE

10 Havocs 4 HB, MoT, IoF, VotLW

Forgefiend

1985 118 Models on the board, lots of fire power, chaff, and some AA. Obviously not the greatest ever but I like it.

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Battle Barge Impossible Fortress

Can the raptor champ take a Lightning Claw? For only 15pts, you get another attack and you can pick weapons accordingly for a challenge or just Pfisting.

The heavy support section is good, and I love the foot-slogging lists.. but I caution against only having a single Forgefiend amid a mass of fleshy bodies.

I am loving the Icon of Flames on the Heavy Bolter squad. I'd love to see this list fight some Thousand Sons.

"What's your Invul? Okay, feth you. Take a bunch of armor saves"

I think it's solid, but the single Forgefiend will go to sleep quickly. Sure, you don't care if people shoot your CSM with a lascannon, but the one demon engine will. : (

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Honestly, don't like the list.
MoT on regular troops give a 6+ (not 5+) and that is almost useless.
Soul blaze... not that good.
What are the raptors trying to do? DS? or fly across board? Either way, IoW not all that good. really just gives +1 S on the charge in this case as they can already re roll charge if moving <6
MoT havocs once again... idk.
I like the other havoc squad.

Single tank (forgefiend) to be shot at makes choices on their side too easy of what to fire Anti armor weapons at.

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You make the mistake and see you have an option, and you bought them all, really need to skim this list way down, your hq's are okay, not sure you need 2, but each to his own, cultists, again okay, i might cut them down to 20 man, they really just there to claim objectives, they are not going to be killing much,
The raptors i would proberly split into two, and lightningclaw'pwrfist on champ is insanely good, The havocs squads, the flakk squad is okay, they are exspensive so need to extra bodies, but the other one i would keep with no upgrades and with only 5 bodies, dosent really hurt much if they get shot at, they are cheap

with all these changes you could get another squad of something
   
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Pasadena

I do think the single Forgefiend stands out. I just really wanted to use one though. Maybe add another HB Havoc squad or a cheaper ML Flaak squad.

Cutting the cultists down to 20 men each is an option too. I have also considered dropping one of the Dark Apostles in favor of a Lord or maybe a Sorcerer. I do like the huge Khornate Raptor squad. If I can find the points for another giant CSM squad with maybe less upgrades I will take it or 10 Terminators. I am liking Terminators with MoT and IoF and a ton of bolters.

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Battle Barge Impossible Fortress

20 is a fine number. I used 18 (x2) the other day and it was amazing.

You know, as far as expendable chaff goes
   
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Pasadena

 Brometheus wrote:
20 is a fine number. I used 18 (x2) the other day and it was amazing.

You know, as far as expendable chaff goes


That's the point right!?

I will definitely need to try out various numbers of them to see what works best but they are really just a screen and a camping unit so we'll see what's needed.

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Los Angeles

Given that so few of us field flamer templates it might do well in the local meta.

But no use of the new psy fun?

And I'm gluing those last few cultists myself right now.

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Battle Barge Impossible Fortress

Hey, any flamers on Cultists are flamers not on Cult Marines
   
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Pasadena

Brothererekose wrote:
Given that so few of us field flamer templates it might do well in the local meta.

But no use of the new psy fun?

And I'm gluing those last few cultists myself right now.


That's why I think more Cultists would be ok in our area. The large number of flamer templates disappeared from our meta around the same time my Salamanders did...

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I'm sure others have said as much already but I'm not a huge fan of PFs or axes on champions unless you have another weapon to use like a lightning claw. You have to challenge and you're counting on making your saves. Around where I play a lot of people have starting using power swords specifically to punk PFs and PAs in challenges, so I might consider switching to the sword and meltabombs for when you need to kill a vehicle.

I also use a lot of cultists, sometimes as many as 120, but I've found those heavy stubber points are best used elsewhere- like for meltabombs on a character or something. The stubber's just not good enough to be worth spending 5 more points on.

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