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Hey Guys, I've posted a multitude of lists of the weekend and using feedback from those lists I came up with this one. Its built at 2000 pts, but it will work in 1999/1999+1 games as well as it does not utilize double FOC.

A little about the list:
I decided to go with a mech list because I love them and I disagree that they are dead. The list I put together utilizes a new list building technique I came up with (or new to me anyways). I call it metal shield. In essence, a host of cheap units in cheap transports provide cover for vehicles behind them carrying the more deadly load. With the new vehicle cover rules, I think this should work nicely for anything thats not it a building. Also, the chimeras higher AV helps protect the weaker rhinos.

The List:
Chaos Lord: 165 pts.
-Mark of Khorne
-Terminator Armor
-Ax of Blind Fury
-Gift of Mutation
-Veteran of the Long War

Bezerkers of Khorne (x8): 214
-Champion w/ Power Sword and Meltabombs
-3 Bezerkers w/ Chain Axes
-1 Bezerker w/ Icon of Wrath
-All Have Veterans of the Long War

Land Raider: 230 pts.

Chaos Space Marines (x10): 190 pts.
-Champion w/ Power Sword and Meltabombs
-2 Plasma Guns

Rhino: 35 pts.

Chaos Space Marines (x10): 190 pts.
-Champion w/ Power Sword and Meltabombs
-2 Plasma Guns

Rhino: 35 pts.

Helldrake: 170 pts.
-Baleflamer

Primaris Psyker: 70 pts.

-Infantry Platoon-

Platoon Command Squad: 55 pts.
-4 Flamers
-Squad has Krak Grenades

Chimera: 55 pts.

Infantry Squad: 65
-Guardsman w/ Flamer.
-Squad has Krak Grenades

Chimera: 55 pts.

Infantry Squad: 65
-Guardsman w/ Flamer
-Squad has Krak Grenades

Chimera: 55 pts.

Heavy Weapons Team: 75 pts.
-3 Autocannons

Heavy Weapons Team: 75 pts.
-3 Autocannons

-End of Infantry Platoon-

Leman Russ: 185 pts.
-Hull Mounted Lascannon
-Heavy Bolter Sponsons
-Extra Armor

General Stradegy:
Drive forward, simple as that. LR will deliver is cargo into the heart of the enemy. At worst, its a great fire magnet, at best, well.....

Infantry platoon is my metal shield, but they can also claim objectives. HW provide autocannon fire cheaper than havocs and can claim objectives to boot. Leman Russ flattens whatever I aim at. Marines will peel off and take objectives when possible, other wise they give some nice fire support. Finally, Helldrake burns units out of cover and can VS any pesky flyers.

Main change I am considering: Drop EA of LR and Put DP on LR

Don't post every upgrade points cost, it's against the forum rules.

Strategy seems ok. With Chaos as your Primary Detachment, you may want to seriously consider Kharn the Betrayer, for he's 5 points less and really deadly. The effects are similar with the Axe of Blind Fury ... maybe it's a tradeoff for the 2+ save.

I would take kharn, but otherwise this seems nice and strong.

Fantastic list; one of the best uses of allies I have come across. I can just imagine a sneaky agent of chaos sneaking up to a psyker and saying:
"looking good, but have you thought about red and spikes lately, brings your chaps over and meat the lads. Woo Haa Haa (muffled)"
"Did you say Woo Haa Haa?"
"Yes, I'm appearing as the hooded claw in a musical version of penelopy pit stop - remember red and spikey"

The concensus so for is Kharn. How about Huron (I understand he rumoured to be able to infiltrate D3 units). In which case you could send in a mixture of rhinos and chimera to instantly outflank a smaller force. Or, substitute the Beserkers for terminators so they get the LR as transport and infiltrate that - (I'm presuming the LR is still a transport option!).

Other tweaks (?): How about finding points to put a heavy weapon in one of the guard squads and assume its going to capture an objective away from the main fight and just site on it firing.

Sorry about the points, since I directly copy my AL I often forget to take them out.

Both Huron and Kharn would work.

The d3 infiltrate Huron brings to the table looks promising, and having if for certain as opposed to a 1/6 chance is cool. My only problem is that I'm uncertain if a undivided ic can join a marked unit. Also, his psychic powers are kinda a gimmick as there's only a 1/18th chance of actually getting the power you want/need. Still, if he can join the unit he'll be able to achieve what no other psker can do, use powers surrounded by khorne worshippers.

Kharn is also pretty good at killing stuff. My only gripe is his wl trait, which is subpar at best. Also, his lack of that 2+ makes him power weapon bait. Still, an AP 2 Power Weapon that strikes at normal initiative is always a plus.

If I do go with one of the SCs, I'll give the PCS a mortar, in case I need them to grab objectives.

One more things, should I work a hydra in somewhere, because my anti-flyer seems subpar at best (and we're in the middle of flyer fever). Should I also consider the Hades AC on the Helldrake so it does have more anti-flyer capability than a s7 VS?

Undivided characters can join any unit without restriction since they aren't a marked IC so the god restriction doesn't apply to them, just like any lord with mark can join an unmarked unit.

Regarding kharn yes, he is a beast just need to avoid MCs and assault termie squads.

How about losing one of the autocannon teams for a defence line with quad gun and a specialist weapons team to man it. Hide/protect the LRBT with it.

Not quite the straight Autocannon team to hyrda swap (its about 60 points you need to find from somewhere) but it may give you options to fort up some of the imperial guard in awkward games.

I like that idea, I was thinking I would need some more anti-flyer anyways.

Its one less scoring unit though :(