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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 19:50:55
Subject: IG 1500 tournament list
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Greater Boston Area, USA
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The guys I play with have Eldar, DE, several Marine chapters, Orks, 'nids, IG - pretty much everything besides Necron and Tau. We're starting a tournament where we draw up a single list and play a knock-out tournament, so I need a good "take all comers" IG list. Can anyone help me edit this list? I'm not sure what a solid IG tournament list looks like, but here's mine.
CCS, 2x melta, melta bombs, medipack, powerfist
PCS, 2x melta
20 conscripts
10-man inf squad, melta bombs
10-man inf squad, melta bombs
Heavy Weapons Squad, 3x AC
LR Exterminator, hull HB and sponson HB
LR Executioner, hull HB and sponson Plasma Cannons
Manticore, hull HB
Veteran Squad 3x Plasma, Chimera HB, ML, heavy stubber
Veteran Squad 3x Melta, Powerfist (riding in Vend)
Vendetta Gunship, 2 TL lascannons
Marbo
Still have some points left over. Looking for lots of feedback, I haven't played that many games at this level. I'm not sure where the weakness is in this list, which concerns me more than if I DID know, lol!
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 20:41:25
Subject: IG 1500 tournament list
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Storming Storm Guardian
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Hmmm.. Not to fond on conscripts in my opinion, they just aren't good enough :( ...
I see you've picked up on the ultimate tank hunting machine; Vendatta and melta Vets ...
You sure like melta come to that ...
Just drop the conscripts for something else. Ratlings seem to be all the rage atm, so maybe 8 ratlings ...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 21:05:33
Subject: Re:IG 1500 tournament list
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Greater Boston Area, USA
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great response, thanks! I get what you're saying with the conscripts, pretty weak. cheap though, i was thinking of using them as a tarpit or sacrificial unit to run ahead of the tanks. I'll consider a combined 20man inf squad instead. i love ratlings! i've had some great luck with them, but I've also had them fail on me, so, I'll consider them too.
my worst fear is getting my tanks assaulted. that's SO many points to lose in a single turn. Russ tanks are such awesome units to have in the backfield, but everyone has their anti-tank game down, which is so frustrating.
I don't know, lots to consider, I think this list is a little heavy on the anti-armor. could maybe bring more templates instead of meltas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 21:29:24
Subject: IG 1500 tournament list
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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CaptObvious wrote:The guys I play with have Eldar, DE, several Marine chapters, Orks, 'nids, IG - pretty much everything besides Necron and Tau. We're starting a tournament where we draw up a single list and play a knock-out tournament, so I need a good "take all comers" IG list. Can anyone help me edit this list? I'm not sure what a solid IG tournament list looks like, but here's mine. CCS, 2x melta, melta bombs, medipack, powerfist Medipacks are 30 points for FNP on a T3 model. Totally not worth it. The Pfist is a waste too, do you really want these guys in combat? Or would you rather them be giving out the amazing orders like BID or FOMT? Spend those points on more special weapons PCS, 2x melta Take advantage of having 4 special weapons slots, get 4 meltas (although hitting on 4s isn't worth it IMO) or 4 flamers (which is amazing) 20 conscripts These just need 6 casualties and they'll run off the board. Ditch them unless you take Chenkov for Bring in the next wave. 10-man inf squad, melta bombs 1 melta bomb, but not heavy or special weapons. Makes no sense. Give them weapons! Lasguns won't kill anything reliably. 10-man inf squad, melta bombs Heavy Weapons Squad, 3x AC 3 T3 models with 2 wounds, these are prime target to be shot to death, shove the weapons in the infantry squads to give them 8 other ablative wounds before they are even touched. It also gives them a Ld8 sargeant for more reliable (slightly) orders. LR Exterminator, hull HB and sponson HB Standard, good, not had good luck with it myself but that's no reason not to take it. LR Executioner, hull HB and sponson Plasma Cannons Amazing, the best thing since sliced bread. Chews through hoards and TEQ alike. Make sure it's protected Manticore, hull HB Standard, great. Veteran Squad 3x Plasma, Chimera HB, ML, heavy stubber Good unit but only 1 chimera will be shot to bits, go all chimeras or none. This won't last long and the vets will end up in your deployment zone. Veteran Squad 3x Melta, Powerfist (riding in Vend) Nice, but why the Pfist? Wasted points. They can't assault after deepstriking or disembarking, they're basically a one shot melta-delivery that can also score. Vendetta Gunship, 2 TL lascannons Similar criticism as the chimera - bringing one will only mean your oppoents AA choices will have been worth it. It's the only AA target so will be shot up fast. Marbo awesome way to spend 65 left over points, but I feel your list could use them else-where. Still have some points left over. Looking for lots of feedback, I haven't played that many games at this level. I'm not sure where the weakness is in this list, which concerns me more than if I DID know, lol! Thanks! All in all, this has the startings of a good list. Don't worry about CC, the guardsmen won't live to hit back so ditch to pfists. You also need more target saturation on the transport/flier. They won't last with just one. You've made the rookie mistake of HWS - they aren't good and can be wiped out quickly, when you could easily just have the heavy weapons in the platoon infantry squads. Multiple melta-guns on units without transports is a little pointless, they could be plasma to fit the gunline idea, but with melta you just won't get enough shots. Also remember your CCS has orders which are almost broken. Re-rolling cover saves? Yes please! Re-rolling misses against vehicles and MCs? Awesome! An Aegis defence line and quad-cannon are my recommendations, also upgrading the conscripts to a PIS and giving the 3 auto-cannons to 3 infantry squads will make your day a lot easier. Blob them an throw in a commissar for more nasty. Forgot to mention: with a foot list like this you probably want a company standard on your CCS or a Lord Commissar to keep your guys on the table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/09 22:18:57
Subject: Re:IG 1500 tournament list
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Greater Boston Area, USA
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@Griddlelol
EXCELLENT! Thanks for the insights, this is what I was looking for.
I've run a large firing line in the past, with commissar or Lord commissar (20-30 combined inf, with autocans, grenade launchers something like that). I had some fights where the infantry wall absolutely leveled anything in LOS. Other fights they deflated in assault, especially with 'nids - they took a bad hit from a biovore, then gaunts finished off a 30 man squad in a single turn. There was nothing I could do but watch, brutal.
I'll take your advice though, and go back to that big firing line + commissar. It's a good way to get some Autocans and other weapons shooting into the mid-game. It's also a good way to keep the tanks safe.
Thank you for talking about the vend and the chimera - it never occurred to me before that running a single transport would be a problem, but now I get it.
And the powerfists, I was hoping to pop tank armor with them, but I think you're right - they would die before getting into assault
Glad I hit the mark with some of these units, I'll see what I can do to patch up the shortcomings in the infantry.
Thanks again!
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