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Made in gb
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Need help what is the best combination GK and IG to take.

A mate and I are entering a doubles tournament in feb 1k each side, but neither of us have ever played in one, so I don't know what type of armies we will see. Im thinking of taking a purifer heavy 1k. or do I go for a small but powerfull draigo wing?

The list im thinking is:

Crowe
Vindicare
Storm raven
Rhino
16 purifiers, Halberds,psybolt 2x incinerators & 1 psycannon.

We havn't got a IG list yet, we would like suggestions however we are looking to take a defence line with quad gun to deal with flyers. My mate is also going to sit a couple if heavy with cam nets to give them a 3+ cover

Please post any improvements, suggestions and advice.
   
Made in nz
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





New Zealand

For the guard build a very shooty gun line, defence line, blobs, artillery, lascannons, plasma everywhere kind of thing.

Then use the gk to dominate the short range and assault.

Because of that I would drop the vindicare, guard will do his job better. If you are going to take crowe, then you need to go all out in the purifiers.

For every 5 you want 2 psycannons, 2 halberds and a hammer. Take psybolt if in squads of 10. Otherwise 5 man units in rhinos work well.
   
Made in ca
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





Ontario, Canada

well for the GK what about something like this?

crowe - 150

purifiers - 10 man, 2x psycannons, 5x halberds, 2x hammers, KoF(halberd), rhino - 322

purifiers - 10 man, 2x psycannons, 5x halberds, 2x hammers, KoF(halberd), rhino - 322

storm raven - TL LC, TL MM - 205

999/1000

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Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





My problem with the above list by BewareOfTom is that, while it is on its own a great list for GK, it doesn't work well with guard. Those purifiers will be tied up limiting what the guard can shoot at in a gun-line list.

This means you're going to need an "alpha-strike" guard list. Which in my experience works better with assault elements. I've played doubles with a DoA Blood Angels player a fair few times. It can be really fun too!
*disclaimer* this list is designed to run with the GK list posted above, not as a stand-alone guard list.
Here's what I ran:

CCS: all plasma guns, plasma pistol on officer
chimera

Vets: all plasma
chimera
Vets: all plasma
chimera
Vets: all melta, demolitions
chimera

This is where the list can change on the meta:

Either fill it up with:

Vendetta
Valkyrie - MRP, HB sponsons
this gives you 30pts to spend where ever you want. Maybe on carapase armor for the plasma gunners or a heavy weapon on your vets if you can sit them still long enough.

Or:

Hellhound
Hellhound
Sentinel with heavy flamer

both lists offer great alpha strike potential to shred anything before the GK finish them off in assault, allowing them to move on to something new each turn.

With all the av12 spam, it's going to be difficult for your opponent to choose a target. There's going to be 1 of what you want making it through each time. The fliers are obvious, and great at taking out opposing fliers. The Sentinel can come in and flame whatever you want, or assault and tie up a target for a turn or two, stopping them from shooting or scoring. It seems flimsy, and it is, but it's more of a distraction than anything. 40 points to stop Long Fangs or a guard blob shooting for a turn? Sounds like a bargain to me!

Edits: A million typos.

This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2012/10/14 11:35:05



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Made in us
Rough Rider with Boomstick




Ohio, USA

I have been toying around with a fairly evenly split GK/IG 1999 list. It could probably be split into 2x 1000 list fairly easily.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/471268.page

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Made in gb
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Thanks for the help griddlelol, the only problem I can see is we wouldn't have much that can take out heavy's, how would we use the guard? As I can't see us lasting long against a shooting army, do players in the uk take shooting army to tournaments?

Im so used to guard being a shooting army, this seems alien to me lol
   
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Everyone brings shooty armies to tourneys now.

When you say "heavies" you mean tanks right? That's what the melta and vendetta is for. Also the GKs with hammers can do it. Plasma can still take out tanks, you just need to glance it to death with help from the multi-lasers. You could also take off the sentinel (not a bad idea) and throw multi-meltas on the hellhounds if you used that list.

The IG list I proposed is still incredibly shooty, it's just more close range, and rather than sitting back waiting for the enemy to come to you, you just join the GK charge and soften them up for the coming assault. Then finish them off when they inevitably run.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/14 19:18:07



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Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User




Thanks I'm have sent my mate a copy if the list and see if he is happy to play it, and we will trial run it
   
 
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