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Chaos attempt 2 with new codex comments appreciated tell meh what you think!

HQ
Typhus 230

Elites
x5 chosen x3 flamers + rhino 140

x5 chosen x4 melta + rhino 165

x5 chosen x4 melta + rhino 165

Troops
x10 cultists 50

x1 ADL Quad gun 100

x5 Plague Marines x2 flamers VoTlw 135

Heavy
Land raider 230

x2 oblits MoN VoTlw 158

x2 oblits MoN VoTlw 158

Allies
HQ
DkoK command sqaud 60

Troops

x5 engineers +demo charge+ hades drill 130

x5 engineers +demo charge+ hades drill 130

I'm a little new on the updated rules and the new codex for CSM but I think your small squads of chosen are not as useful as they used to be. They don't have the infiltrate rule anymore and can't outflank with their rhinos?

I think you're possibly lacking on troop choice since the 20 cultists are on foot and the plague squad is very very small (even though they're well protected)

I don't have a lot of experience in 1850 pt battles, but across the board it feels like this
Did you bring enough bodies to the fight? No
Did you bring enough vehicles to the fight? No
Are you efficiently using all of your FoC options? ??

Just my two cents. I'm still wrapping my head around the new rulebook and stuff, I took a year break and just jumped back in recently.

i dont have 20 cultists in the list? the 10 i turn into zombies sit back on the Adl the hades and their engineers deepstrike the hades comes up with a Str 10 Ap 1 large blast and the turn after the engineers hop out of the hole and demo charge something not to mention the hades drill has a blast weapon melta and well typhus is just there to well.. scare people and mke them concentrate fire on the landraider leaving the rest of my army to go about there buisness

I like the DkoK, its cool, but my main comment would be that if you are going to use typhus, you might as well take Plague Marines since you can make them troops, instead of Chosen. They still can take 2 special weapons and you probably don't want more than that in a squad anyway since they can be shot, Max out your Troops FoC, between the Plague Marines and squads of 10 zombies.

If you really have your heart set on the chosen then take Abaddon instead. He makes them scoring and it's not worth it taking Typhus just for one 10 man squad of zombies.

Typhus is in the LR with the plague marines right? Also I'd say it's worth it not to man the zombies on the ADL. They are better off just wandering off in the corners and sitting in terrain near objectives.

I think having more 10 man zombie units is great because it is just hard to shoot at and kill them all, especially if you can stick them out of LOS.

 Meade wrote:
I like the DkoK, its cool, but my main comment would be that if you are going to use typhus, you might as well take Plague Marines since you can make them troops, instead of Chosen. They still can take 2 special weapons and you probably don't want more than that in a squad anyway since they can be shot, Max out your Troops FoC, between the Plague Marines and squads of 10 zombies.

If you really have your heart set on the chosen then take Abaddon instead. He makes them scoring and it's not worth it taking Typhus just for one 10 man squad of zombies.

Typhus is in the LR with the plague marines right? Also I'd say it's worth it not to man the zombies on the ADL. They are better off just wandering off in the corners and sitting in terrain near objectives.

I think having more 10 man zombie units is great because it is just hard to shoot at and kill them all, especially if you can stick them out of LOS.

I could take the plague marines except chosen are cheaper even with more guns and this list will probably have 4 other variarnts

1. switch typhus with ahriman and take a small squad of 1k son
2. take Kharne with some bzerkers
3. take lucius with a sqaud of Noise marines
4. take abbadon with a small aquad of normal csm

 Overlord Zerrtin wrote:

 Meade wrote:
I like the DkoK, its cool, but my main comment would be that if you are going to use typhus, you might as well take Plague Marines since you can make them troops, instead of Chosen. They still can take 2 special weapons and you probably don't want more than that in a squad anyway since they can be shot, Max out your Troops FoC, between the Plague Marines and squads of 10 zombies.

If you really have your heart set on the chosen then take Abaddon instead. He makes them scoring and it's not worth it taking Typhus just for one 10 man squad of zombies.

Typhus is in the LR with the plague marines right? Also I'd say it's worth it not to man the zombies on the ADL. They are better off just wandering off in the corners and sitting in terrain near objectives.

I think having more 10 man zombie units is great because it is just hard to shoot at and kill them all, especially if you can stick them out of LOS.

I could take the plague marines except chosen are cheaper even with more guns and this list will probably have 4 other variarnts

1. switch typhus with ahriman and take a small squad of 1k son
2. take Kharne with some bzerkers
3. take lucius with a sqaud of Noise marines
4. take abbadon with a small aquad of normal csm

Sure they are cheaper, but the rhinos will get blown up fast, giving up first blood and the chosen die just like marines. After the sarge dies, there are no meat shields for the special weapons and they probably will die before being able to fire or get into melta range.

Plague marines are worth it especially because you already have typhus to make them scoring, if you need to just drop the rhinos and put the points into more plague marines.

Also you could probably use some heavy support, maybe some havocs manning that ADL

not being funny mate but wouldn't you be better off runing a lord with a mark if your only gonna take a small squad of cult troops. Unless your not that bothered about composition, in which case carry on, seems like allot of points just to take 10 zombies...or 1 cult marine choice.
I can here the chaos lord model whispering "..uuuuse meeee....pleeeease...im....cheap"

 jamessearle0 wrote:
not being funny mate but wouldn't you be better off runing a lord with a mark if your only gonna take a small squad of cult troops. Unless your not that bothered about composition, in which case carry on, seems like allot of points just to take 10 zombies...or 1 cult marine choice.
I can here the chaos lord model whispering "..uuuuse meeee....pleeeease...im....cheap"

i wasnt really taking typhus for the plague marines or zombiesi just took him cuz hes awesome + a psyker

 Overlord Zerrtin wrote:

 jamessearle0 wrote:
not being funny mate but wouldn't you be better off runing a lord with a mark if your only gonna take a small squad of cult troops. Unless your not that bothered about composition, in which case carry on, seems like allot of points just to take 10 zombies...or 1 cult marine choice.
I can here the chaos lord model whispering "..uuuuse meeee....pleeeease...im....cheap"

i wasnt really taking typhus for the plague marines or zombiesi just took him cuz hes awesome + a psyker

In that case I think you are better off with CSM's in those rhinos rather than chosen, and taking plasmaguns. Maybe one chosen squad but no more. Those chosen squads will just die up there like that. Or just take them with Abaddon, you need the scoring.

Btw, aegis defense lines are not troops.
With this list, looks like you'd be better off with Abbaddon to make those chosen marines into troops. Also, what are you planning for the land raider? It is an assault taxi with lascannons. If you are going for anti-tank, I'd take havocs with lascannons and missile launchers with flakk.

what if i took ahriman or huron for the infiltrate ability for my chosen?

Huron is a bit of a badass power axe / ap3 i5 s6 / flamer / psychic power, definitely a cool model too.

I actually like the mass chosen route! Got me into rethinking one of my lists.

I would want more scoring units though.

I really love the use of Ahriman with master of deception, and 1-2 squads of plasma/melta chosen. With other things thrown in.... Forge fiends, maulers, Tanks, helldrake. The LR. If people choose to ignore the chosen. Then they can really deal damage, but if the chosen are not ignored and focussed then at least it draws fire from someone else usefull.

DKoK are cool, but I would get rid. CSM all the way!