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While stumbling around on 40k Wikia, I found this image:



It shows a pre-heresy World Eaters marine in dark grey armour. What's the story on this? The article makes no mention of why or when this heraldry was present. Any background on this?

They can't change?

Anyways, looks like an Imperial Armour book, maybe Siege of Vraks?

That is one of the special units in the HH Book I - Betrayl. I'll try and findthe references and post somethign shortly.

PanzerTC wrote:
That is one of the special units in the HH Book I - Betrayl. I'll try and findthe references and post somethign shortly.

Thank you. It does indeed look like a HH Betrayal image. I love the scheme (much nicer than the blue/white) and basically wanted to find a pretext for doing an army-wide HH WE army like this.

It is from the new FW HH Book I : Betrayal book.

I don't have my copy to hand but IIRC; these are World Eaters marked for the Destroyer[?] squads. Again, from memory, they are Marines whom have gone far beyond the mark. The Butchers Nails have done their job and then some - these are World Eaters who have to be restrained physically between deployments.

I'll check and edit up this post in a couple of hours when I get back home from work. Take the above with a grain of salt.

Could also be a nod to Kharns depiction in the Visions series. He wears Grey armour in that, only one image of him though.

All Legio Astartes Armor was painted grey initially, through a combination of winning battle honors and the Primarchs own tastes (once said Primarch was found) the scheme changed.

After Angron was found I think the Legion Colors were changed to White and blue trim as the Warhounds.

 Bloodfrenzy187 wrote:
After Angron was found I think the Legion Colors were changed to White and blue trim as the Warhounds.

The warhounds had their name and color before Angron was found though.

Ravendove wrote:
While stumbling around on 40k Wikia, I found this image:



It shows a pre-heresy World Eaters marine in dark grey armour. What's the story on this? The article makes no mention of why or when this heraldry was present. Any background on this?

Sorry for saying this but most of you are wrong. This World Eater is a member of the specialist World Eaters Destroyer Squads, which were marked with darker greyer armour due to their role and probably due to the chem and radiation they recieve from their specialist weaponry. It is also most certainly from The Horus Heresy: Betrayal book, the World Eaters section.

As to Primarch's tastes changing schemes and such, prior to finding Angron the World Eaters were the War Hounds and had a greyer blue-ish toned armour with red insets on their shoulder pads, and they were most certainly cleaner and more kept, not the scared and chipped white forms of the World Eaters.

 crimsonfist832 wrote:

Ravendove wrote:
While stumbling around on 40k Wikia, I found this image:



It shows a pre-heresy World Eaters marine in dark grey armour. What's the story on this? The article makes no mention of why or when this heraldry was present. Any background on this?

Sorry for saying this but most of you are wrong. This World Eater is a member of the specialist World Eaters Destroyer Squads, which were marked with darker greyer armour due to their role and probably due to the chem and radiation they recieve from their specialist weaponry. It is also most certainly from The Horus Heresy: Betrayal book, the World Eaters section.

As to Primarch's tastes changing schemes and such, prior to finding Angron the World Eaters were the War Hounds and had a greyer blue-ish toned armour with red insets on their shoulder pads, and they were most certainly cleaner and more kept, not the scared and chipped white forms of the World Eaters.

Crimsonfist832 has it bang on the money, been through the HH book and the explanation given above is spot on.

To clarify destroyers existed in all the legions as well.

I like this colour scheme more than the white/blue one. It suits them. I'd want to be a destroyer if I was a world eater so I could wear that armour. And I'd also want to stay a Warhound.
You want savage? How's that for savage?

 Rysaer wrote:

 crimsonfist832 wrote:

Ravendove wrote:
While stumbling around on 40k Wikia, I found this image:



It shows a pre-heresy World Eaters marine in dark grey armour. What's the story on this? The article makes no mention of why or when this heraldry was present. Any background on this?

Sorry for saying this but most of you are wrong. This World Eater is a member of the specialist World Eaters Destroyer Squads, which were marked with darker greyer armour due to their role and probably due to the chem and radiation they recieve from their specialist weaponry. It is also most certainly from The Horus Heresy: Betrayal book, the World Eaters section.

As to Primarch's tastes changing schemes and such, prior to finding Angron the World Eaters were the War Hounds and had a greyer blue-ish toned armour with red insets on their shoulder pads, and they were most certainly cleaner and more kept, not the scared and chipped white forms of the World Eaters.

Crimsonfist832 has it bang on the money, been through the HH book and the explanation given above is spot on.

YAY hahahah thanks for that.

And yeh exactly as dreadnova says they existed in all of the Legions and again all of them had chem and rad pocked/scarred armour that was that way due to the weaponry they utilised. However you may want to note that despite the fact that they existed they weren't entirely trusted and some of the Legions if not most actually shunned the use of them, whilst again some saw the genius in their savagery.

No problem Crimsonfist832, when your right, your right

I'm actually considering doing this with my Pre-Heresy World Eaters, as it will give a really stark contrast to the White/Blue and it gives me a chance to work with metals, which I don't do enough.

 crimsonfist832 wrote:

 Rysaer wrote:

 crimsonfist832 wrote:

Ravendove wrote:
While stumbling around on 40k Wikia, I found this image:



It shows a pre-heresy World Eaters marine in dark grey armour. What's the story on this? The article makes no mention of why or when this heraldry was present. Any background on this?

Sorry for saying this but most of you are wrong. This World Eater is a member of the specialist World Eaters Destroyer Squads, which were marked with darker greyer armour due to their role and probably due to the chem and radiation they recieve from their specialist weaponry. It is also most certainly from The Horus Heresy: Betrayal book, the World Eaters section.

As to Primarch's tastes changing schemes and such, prior to finding Angron the World Eaters were the War Hounds and had a greyer blue-ish toned armour with red insets on their shoulder pads, and they were most certainly cleaner and more kept, not the scared and chipped white forms of the World Eaters.

Crimsonfist832 has it bang on the money, been through the HH book and the explanation given above is spot on.

YAY hahahah thanks for that.

And yeh exactly as dreadnova says they existed in all of the Legions and again all of them had chem and rad pocked/scarred armour that was that way due to the weaponry they utilised. However you may want to note that despite the fact that they existed they weren't entirely trusted and some of the Legions if not most actually shunned the use of them, whilst again some saw the genius in their savagery.

Thanks for sourcing the correct information! So these are individual squads; not entire formations. That's a shame, because you're not likely see a whole battle force looking like this. Oh well. Thank you so much anyway.

There is nothing stopping you using this as a full scheme, but if you are wanting to stick to the fluff then you wouldn't be able to sadly although you could have more of this type of squad to get that.

It sucks, fluff always predetermines what I do.... even when I sometimes like other schemes better

 Rysaer wrote:
It sucks, fluff always predetermines what I do.... even when I sometimes like other schemes better

Haha - I'm exactly the same. It's a tough life ; )

Talking of heresy era colours, when did the legions change to codex colours? And why did the founding chapter also change?