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As the title suggests.

Can they?

No, may replace ONE weapon with ONE of the following...

 Lobukia wrote:
No, may replace ONE weapon with ONE of the following...

What about the key that doesn't need to replace anything?

 Lobukia wrote:
No, may replace ONE weapon with ONE of the following...

This is NOT the way the entry is listed in the Army Section.


Actual Rules:

* "May take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Chaos Rewards, Special Issue Wargear and/or Chaos Artefacts sections of the wargear list."

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This is a separate bullet. Nowhere is it described that any of these items replace anything. The model just takes them and pays the appropriate points. Therefor you can give them as many as you want.

True for Lords, Sorcerers, Warpsmiths & Apostles.

 Boneblade wrote:

 Lobukia wrote:
No, may replace ONE weapon with ONE of the following...

This is NOT the way the entry is listed in the Army Section.


Actual Rules:

* "May take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Chaos Rewards, Special Issue Wargear and/or Chaos Artefacts sections of the wargear list."

*

*

This is a separate bullet. Nowhere is it described that any of these items replace anything. The model just takes them and pays the appropriate points. Therefor you can give them as many as you want.

True for Lords, Sorcerers, Warpsmiths & Apostles.

It is in the wargear section under artifacts "may replace ONE weapon with ONE of the following", not at the unit entry

 Lord Yayula wrote:

It is in the wargear section under artifacts "may replace ONE weapon with ONE of the following", not at the unit entry

So replace your bolt pistol with one, and your close combat weapon with the other.

Then you're replacing TWO weapons with TWO of the following.

 Ghaz wrote:
Then you're replacing TWO weapons with TWO of the following.

Yeah, thats what it says to do, replace one weapon with one of the following, so its a one for one trade. You come with two weapons.

I don't see it saying replace "only" one weapon with one of the following.

Wrong. It clearly says that you can trade ONE weapon. You're trying to trade TWO weapons.

Just curious, are we going for deminsional key + a weapon or what? We all know given permission to trade 1 thing for 1 thing means only that. If not, then all my tactical marines get meltas, sweet!

 Ghaz wrote:
Wrong. It clearly says that you can trade ONE weapon. You're trying to trade TWO weapons.

No, I'm trading one weapon, and then another one weapon.

Kevlar wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Wrong. It clearly says that you can trade ONE weapon. You're trying to trade TWO weapons.

No, I'm trading one weapon, and then another one weapon.

Then it would read trade any weapon for any artifact. English much?

There are two items that don't even replace weapons. How are they restricted then since you never replace ONE weapon for ONE dimensional key or ONE sorcerer's scroll.

So you can obviously replace a weapon with say the murder sword, and still take either of those, so in fact you can take three artefacts.

Kevlar wrote:
There are two items that don't even replace weapons. How are they restricted then since you never replace ONE weapon for ONE dimensional key or ONE sorcerer's scroll.

So you can obviously replace a weapon with say the murder sword, and still take either of those, so in fact you can take three artefacts.

I do agree that you can take the free purchase ones in addition to replacing one (and only one) weapon.

Sidenote that is relevant to the discussion going on here:

What about taking a pair of Lightning Claws on a character, the rules governing melee weapon upgrades in the armoury bit are:

"A model can replace his bolt pistol and/or close combat weapon with one of the following:"

It similarly specifies only one of the following may be taken to replace things, and even the "and/or" phrase doesn't necessarily indicate you can make multiple selections from the list, "and" doesn't inherently allow you to select from the list twice, rather it just allows you to group both weapons together when trading them away.

So basically, does everyone also agree that a model can't use this list to take a pair of lightning claws?

Yes, depending on the Artifact.

for example a Chaos Sorcerer with Mark of Tzeentch can take the Dimensional Key, The Scrolls of Magnus and Murder Sword.

Or a Nurgle Lord can take Murder Sword and The Black Mace

The entry says "may take items..." Plural "from the ..... and/or Chaos Artifacts.."

The sentence on page 91 just explains that you must give up a trade on a 1 to 1 basis.

 Drunkspleen wrote:
Sidenote that is relevant to the discussion going on here:

What about taking a pair of Lightning Claws on a character, the rules governing melee weapon upgrades in the armoury bit are:

"A model can replace his bolt pistol and/or close combat weapon with one of the following:"

It similarly specifies only one of the following may be taken to replace things, and even the "and/or" phrase doesn't necessarily indicate you can make multiple selections from the list, "and" doesn't inherently allow you to select from the list twice, rather it just allows you to group both weapons together when trading them away.

So basically, does everyone also agree that a model can't use this list to take a pair of lightning claws?

Good catch!

This guy is like TOTALLY illegal.

Better get out a saw and lop off one of his hands.

Kevlar wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Wrong. It clearly says that you can trade ONE weapon. You're trying to trade TWO weapons.

No, I'm trading one weapon, and then another one weapon.

So you're given permission to trade 1 for 1.

You're trying to trade 1 for 1 two times. What is 1+1? Obv answer is 2, are you given permission to trade 2 for 2?