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Hi,

I'm looking for advice how to improve my ork's list.
I've had some expierience running a green tide list, but now, in 6th edition, it doesn't work for me any longer, especially against heavy-shooty armies.

I've been trying to make up a list with 2 strong CC nob mobs with some distraction units around.


1500

Biker Warboss - Klaw, Bosspole, Squig - 155

5 Meganobs - 1xCombiskorcha - 205
Dedicated Battlewagon - Rolla, Plates, RPJ, 1xBigShoota - 130

5 BikerNobs + Painboy - 2xKlaw, 2xBC, WaaaghBanner, Bosspole, Cyborks - 410

20 Shootas - 2x Big Shoota, Nob (klaw, armor, bosspole) - 175

10 Grots - 40

DakkaJet - Masta Ace, 3x SupaShoota - 130

Battlewagon - Rolla, Plates, RPJ, 1xBigShoota - 130

Looted Wagon - ArdCase, Boomgun, 2xBigShoota - 125



Does it make any sense? Do you think it would work well?
Maybe a good idea is to change bikers into another mob of meganobs in BW?

This list seems effective from the viewpoint you're taking regarding two CC units of Nobz.

Personally, I don't like single DakkaJets.. I'm not scared of them, and I will ignore one completely.

Now, if you had 2 of them.... Game changer at 1500.

Looks solid and orky, as-is though.

Maciej wrote:
Hi,

I'm looking for advice how to improve my ork's list.
I've had some expierience running a green tide list, but now, in 6th edition, it doesn't work for me any longer, especially against heavy-shooty armies.

I've been trying to make up a list with 2 strong CC nob mobs with some distraction units around.


1500

Biker Warboss - Klaw, Bosspole, Squig - 155

5 Meganobs - 1xCombiskorcha - 205
Dedicated Battlewagon - Rolla, Plates, RPJ, 1xBigShoota - 130

5 BikerNobs + Painboy - 2xKlaw, 2xBC, WaaaghBanner, Bosspole, Cyborks - 410

20 Shootas - 2x Big Shoota, Nob (klaw, armor, bosspole) - 175

10 Grots - 40

DakkaJet - Masta Ace, 3x SupaShoota - 130

Battlewagon - Rolla, Plates, RPJ, 1xBigShoota - 130

Looted Wagon - ArdCase, Boomgun, 2xBigShoota - 125



Does it make any sense? Do you think it would work well?
Maybe a good idea is to change bikers into another mob of meganobs in BW?

The warboss biker is off by 10pts. With his load out he is 145 and frees up 10pts.
The nob bikers are off on 50pts. With their load out theyre 360 freeing up 50pts.

Drop the mega nobz, but keep their battlewagon
Drop the looted wagon
Drop the big choppas on the nob bikers
Drop the plates on the battlewagons

Freeing up a total of 420pts

Add at minimum 2 more nob bikers with cybodies
Add another mob of boyz with your load out
Add 9 lootas
Add a cyborg body to the warboss biker

This gives another scoring unit and allows them to be mobile in the battlewagons, makes the nob bikers more lethal while allowing them to absorb more fire, and gives you a unit that drop dice on targets out to 48".

 Brometheus wrote:


Personally, I don't like single DakkaJets.. I'm not scared of them, and I will ignore one completely.

Now, if you had 2 of them.... Game changer at 1500.

Thought about dropping looted wagon, and taking one more jet, but i like the idea of having S8 large blast that doesn't roll to hit on orky BS.

Gutstuf Ugfang wrote: The warboss biker is off by 10pts. With his load out he is 145 and frees up 10pts.
The nob bikers are off on 50pts. With their load out theyre 360 freeing up 50pts.

In boss's profile it's my mistake, he's got cybork body as well, that's 155
Nob bikers are fine - there is 5 of them plus painboy, not 5 of them including painboy

Drop the mega nobz, but keep their battlewagon
Drop the looted wagon
Drop the big choppas on the nob bikers
Drop the plates on the battlewagons

Freeing up a total of 420pts

Add at minimum 2 more nob bikers with cybodies
Add another mob of boyz with your load out
Add 9 lootas

It would look something like this:

Biker Boss - Klaw, Bosspole, Squig, cybork - 155
9 Lootas - 135
6 BikerNobs + Painboy (7 models) - 2xKlaw, WaaaghBanner, Bosspole, Cyborks - 450
20 Shootas - 2x Big Shoota, Nob (klaw, armor, bosspole) - 175
20 Shootas - 2x Big Shoota, Nob (klaw, armor, bosspole) - 175
10 Grots - 40
DakkaJet - Masta Ace, 3x SupaShoota - 130
Battlewagon - Rolla, RPJ, 1xBigShoota - 120
Battlewagon - Rolla, RPJ, 1xBigShoota - 120


14 models more comparing to the first roster.
I'm thinking if 9 lootas are enough to do the job. what about dropping them and taking another dakkajet? or other way round, drop dakkajet and add more lootas...

9 lootas can get the job done 1500 and as for the swopping out the dakka jet for more lootas or and visa verse for the lootas, its more a matter of preference and playstyle.
if you have 2 dakka jets youre guaranteed 9 TL shots at BS3 all the time from each dakka jet and everyone needs 6s to hit you if theyre not packing anything with skyfire special rule. the down side being that they have to be held in reserve coming out turn 2 or up; while also trying to maneuver the jet in such a way that you can keep it on the board and keep it within line of sight of a target.
if you have 2 loota squads you also guaranteed at minimum 9 shots per squad at S7, 1 better than the supa shootas, at BS2 without TL, but you have the a better chance on average to roll 2 shots per squad or more on a D3. the down side to them is that theyre vulnerable to fire more so than the dakka jet is. so if you opponent is smart then theyll unload their shooting into your lootas and your nob biker death star and move down the list from there.