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Hey All,

I've been playing around with my Crimson Fists Army for fun as I just got a few extra models and wanted to run it by the forums to see what people thought

HQ:

Pedro Kantor

Librarian
Force Staff, GOI and Null Zone

Elites:

(2x) 10 Man Sternguard Squad
4x combi-Melta, 5x combi-plasma, Sgt w/ combi-Melta, Power Sword, Melta Bombs, Drop Pod

Troops:

10 Man Tac Squad
Meltagun, MM, Sgt w/ combi-Melta, Melta Bombs, Drop Pod

5 Man Scout Squad
3x Sniper, ML, Telion, Camo-Cloaks

Fast Attack"

(2x) Solo Land Speeder Squad
Typhoon Missile Launchers

Solo Lans Speeder Squad
MM/MM

Heavy Support:

(2x) Thunderfire Cannon

Whirlwind Missile Launcher

Fortifications:

ADL w/ Quadgun

Normally I run with 3x Sternguard squads, but wanted to switch it up and thought I'd give this list a try. Anyone see any glaring weaknesses or problems with the list?

You'll be better without Kantor. Combat tactics is better than stubborn and a single unit of sternguard.
Also the whole antiflyer thing is missing.

Apart from those two the list does look solid.

MFletch wrote:
You'll be better without Kantor. Combat tactics is better than stubborn and a single unit of sternguard.
Also the whole antiflyer thing is missing.

Apart from those two the list does look solid.

Scoring sternguard, without kantor it's a 2k list with only 2 scoring units, one of which being a minimum size scout squad.

Without kantor the list would need more troops.

I would ditch the whirlwind get an ageis defense line and a quad gun manned by telion in there, the solo close range speeder also seems awfully fragile.

also, he has 2 stern squads (notice the x2 thing before the name)

Yes, there are teo sternguard squads, and i did have an adl with quadgun on army builder, not sure how I missed putting it in the list, but its now updated.


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As for Pedro, I'm used to stubborn now, though combat tactics is far superior, however i need him to give me 4 scoring units and to beef up my Sterns combat ability (3 cc atks if Pedro w/ in 12")

Telion will def be on the quadgun

Not sure about the whirlwind, if i could find 30 points it would be fun to try the hyperios AA version, which combined w the ADL might see me through flyer threats.

Thanks to everyone for the comments, any one else see any flaws?

I take it back two squads is probably enough. I would drop the librarian he seems a little excessive, the points could be better spent. I would give him terminator armour to join the sternguard.

I think at the moment only stormtalons are the only reliable way for vanilla marines to tackle flyers including allies. That is a whole different discussion.

Hmm, I believe I can get a stormtalon if I drop the whirlwind and the Librarian. would save me 30pts, hmm, where to spend it?

I often wind up combat squad-ing one of the the sterns to maximize targets, so I realy won't need the GOI too much after round one.