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Getting back into Warhammer 40k after a break. What do you think? Thanks.

HQ:

Emperor's Champion: 140 points
Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds

Chaplain: 175 points
Artificer Armor, Powerfist, Meltabomb, Storm Shield

Troops:


7 man Crusader Squad: 181 points
Meltagun, Powerfist, Rhino: smoke launchers, searchlight

8 man Crusader Squad: 197 points
Meltagun, Powerfist, Rhino: smoke launchers, searchlight

8 man Crusader Squad: 197 points
Meltagun, Powerfist, Rhino: smoke launchers, searchlight

8 man Crusader Squad: 197 points
Meltagun, Powerfist, Rhino: smoke launchers, searchlight

8 man Crusader Squad: 197 points
Meltagun, Powerfist, Rhino: smoke launchers, searchlight

Fast Attack:

Land Speeder: 85 points
Multi Melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher

Land Speeder: 85 points
Multi Melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher

Land Speeder: 85 points
Multi Melta, Typhoon Missile Launcher

Heavy Support:

Predator: 148 points
TL Lascannon Turret, Lascannon Sponsons, Smoke Launchers

Predator: 148 points
TL Lascannon Turret, Lascannon Sponsons, Smoke Launchers

For the Chaplain, I would remove the SS, he already has a 4++ which is fine

The crusader squads seem fine to me but to save points (and make it fluffy) you could exchange a few Initiates for Neophytes.

Predators, they should be 145 each by my reckoning,
if you were to run them as auto/las predators you'd save yourself a few points and still have some high str killing power.

Overall I like the look of the list and can't really find anywhere else to improve upon. Its always nice to see a fellow crusader

 macc92 wrote:
For the Chaplain, I would remove the SS, he already has a 4++ which is fine

The crusader squads seem fine to me but to save points (and make it fluffy) you could exchange a few Initiates for Neophytes.

Predators, they should be 145 each by my reckoning,
if you were to run them as auto/las predators you'd save yourself a few points and still have some high str killing power.

Overall I like the look of the list and can't really find anywhere else to improve upon. Its always nice to see a fellow crusader

Thanks for the feedback! I just fixed the points on the Predators, thanks for that! I am not so sure on dropping the SS on the Chaplain, that 3+ inv has saved me numerous times from instant killing weapons. Also i would add Neophytes to save points, but what would I do with that saved points? Also I have 10 points left what should I do with that? Thanks again!

If you're worried about ID weapons on the chaplain try replacing the SS with an adamantine mantle

some of the extra points you have left could be used on searchlights for the rhinos, with night fighting happening for the first turn on a 4+ its a lot more common now, you can use the rhinos to light up a high value target denying them a cover save for when your predators to shoot at it

also think about giving your predators smoke launchers in case they need to redeploy mid battle you can move 12 with them and then throw smoke to get a cover save when you may not have had one

The rhinos are probably not worth the points. Your troops will not be good assault troops anyway so I would always be tempted to set them up for just shooting.

The MM on the typhoons is a little expensive. The heavy bolter is fine and has a good range to sit the typhoons at the back. If anything take more typhoons.

MFletch wrote:
The rhinos are probably not worth the points. Your troops will not be good assault troops anyway so I would always be tempted to set them up for just shooting.

The MM on the typhoons is a little expensive. The heavy bolter is fine and has a good range to sit the typhoons at the back. If anything take more typhoons.

I've always assaulted fine with Rhinos. The whole point of them is to speed up 12 inches first turn, pop smoke, then look at that. They are already up mid field and they get out. Once out they can hide behind their rhinos or other cover. The next turn move into enemy deployment zone and start charging the enemies. I understand more typhoons would be better. But in my opinion, Black Templars at best when in CC.

Anymore comments/criticism?