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Sorry if I posted this is in the wrong part but I can't remeber where is says in the BRB you can you forgewrold models so can you please give me the page number thanks.
   
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/481994.page

This thread should help answer you. Give it a good read, and you shouldn't have any more questions. Skip over the fighting in the middle.

The summary I gave which seemed apt was

So the summation of this thread is that Forgeworld, while it may not/may be perfectly legal (we are leaving that as a 50/50), it is up to your opponent. Always be clear about what your units are, their abilities, and their rules. If an opponent of yours comes onto a forum asking 'what the hell was that big dreadnought thingie' then you have done something seriously wrong. Always be clear, have your FW books/printouts (in the case of experimental rules) with you, and then yeah.

So in answer to your original question, its not in the BRB. I just wanted to cut out all the arguing in the middle and answer the question this will end up as.

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The BRB does not explicitly say you can use FW stuff in 40k, just as it does not explicitly list future expansions that will be 40k legal, nor does it explicitly state that WD stuff is legal. The IA books say "New rules for Apocalypse and 40k" on the front and some units have 40k approved stamps on their entry. Being that FW is just a division of GW and couldn't just stamp "40k approved" on stuff without their approval it's very safe to assume 40k approved means 40k approved. GW woulsn't link to FW from their site if it was illegal to use.

Note that many units in IA books are Apocalopyse only. 40k approved is only for the regular scale models, non of which are particularly powerful and the pricing on them is pretty much in line with the rest of 40k

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It's not really a matter of Forgeworld being 'legal' or not in normal games.

For casual play, you are free to use whatever rules you and your opponent choose to use. You don't need a rule stating that Forgeworld is legal any more than you need one stating that the Space Wolf codex is legal. It's material produced for Warhammer 40000, and so you're free to use it if you and your opponent want to use it.

 
   
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 Puretide1 wrote:
Sorry if I posted this is in the wrong part but I can't remeber where is says in the BRB you can you forgewrold models so can you please give me the page number thanks.

Hi , if you are looking for weighted permissions, I believe this is what you seek
The icon on the very right is weighted 40k Approved units allowed to be used with your codex, without your opponent's permission.

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LunaHound is spot on.

I'll add though, that many people don't like playing against FW anyways because the models are often imbalanced, and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.
   
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Tinsil wrote:
LunaHound is spot on.

I'll add though, that many people don't like playing against FW anyways because the models are often imbalanced, and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.


Often Imblanced huh? Do you mind giving a list of these Imbalanced Units?

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Tinsil wrote:
LunaHound is spot on.

I'll add though, that many people don't like playing against FW anyways because the models are often imbalanced, and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.


Same reason you see people pack up when they see Necron flylists, vendetta spam, Grey knight paladins, and a few other things.
   
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Tinsil wrote:
... and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.

'Never' is somewhat of an overstatement. Some tournies do allow Forgeworld. I played in one a couple of months ago.

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
Tinsil wrote:
... and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.

'Never' is somewhat of an overstatement. Some tournies do allow Forgeworld. I played in one a couple of months ago.


And of course the allowance in tournaments has nothing to do with GW's policy on what is and isn't part of normal games, since tournaments are run by third-party TOs who can impose whatever house rules they like.

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 LunaHound wrote:
 Puretide1 wrote:
Sorry if I posted this is in the wrong part but I can't remeber where is says in the BRB you can you forgewrold models so can you please give me the page number thanks.

Hi , if you are looking for weighted permissions, I believe this is what you seek
The icon on the very right is weighted 40k Approved units allowed to be used with your codex, without your opponent's permission.

It still requires permission; even the quote itself implies that permission is needed, since you need to check with your opponent to make sure they're ok with playing against FW stuff.

I feel like a broken record in saying this, but literally everything in 40k requires your opponent's permission to be used. In my experience, though, the more transparent you are about the FW units' rules (i.e. how well you explain the rules, and how open you are with letting your opponent read and understand the unit entry) before the game, the more likely they are to accept it.
   
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 Peregrine wrote:

And of course the allowance in tournaments has nothing to do with GW's policy on what is and isn't part of normal games, ...

Which policy is that?

 
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
Tinsil wrote:
... and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.

'Never' is somewhat of an overstatement. Some tournies do allow Forgeworld. I played in one a couple of months ago.


And of course the allowance in tournaments has nothing to do with GW's policy on what is and isn't part of normal games, since tournaments are run by third-party TOs who can impose whatever house rules they like.


What policy would that be?

Agreed on "never' being a huge overstatement; a number of UK tournaments allow FW, our locally run ones do as an example

FW units are, 99.9% of the time, overcosted / under powered. There are probably 4 units that are a complete PITA, that's it
   
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 Sasori wrote:
Tinsil wrote:
LunaHound is spot on.

I'll add though, that many people don't like playing against FW anyways because the models are often imbalanced, and they are never allowed in tourneys anyways either.


Often Imblanced huh? Do you mind giving a list of these Imbalanced Units?


Please don't. There's already a 30+ page thread in the tournament section here! Go there, please.

And read my signature.

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