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Does it matter which way the flyer base is facing. Long is front to back, short is side to side or Long is side to side, short is front to back. Just wondering due to someone stating that i can not have the long part of the base going side to side of the flyer due to the assembly instructions show it as long part is front to back and is not legal.

My argument is as long as I use the base that was intended for it and everything is represented properly there is no issue. If things where his way I do not see how any modified model is game legal since it was not directed on the assembly instructions. I honestly he is getting things confused like putting something on a base that was not intended to be on. If someone can post of link of this rule, having a hard time looking for the factory assembly rule.

There are no rules that dictate how you put your models together. So technically you can never put them together or paint them.

That said, if you put your models together according to the instructions in the box, you are less likely to hear people complain about how they are assembled.

First question is why do you want to assemble it differently? If the reason is to gain ingame advantage, well it is obviously MFA.

Second, you should consider does the new assembly give you any ingame advantage even though it was not motivated by it. If the answer is yes again, you should reconsider or tell your opponent beforehand and offer to treat it as it were assembled normally.

Given that the base doesn't come into play in the shooting or assault phase(most of the time) it really doesn't matter.


Although I doubt you will get the flyer to remain stable if you put it on sideways. Lengthwise is the only stable way I see working.

there is no problem with being stable, and the reason i have it sideways is that on a stormraven i considered that since the wingspan is bigger it would make sense that i put it that way to represent this since the base represents the the distance the the flyer if you were to measure to it to the hull.

Luide wrote:
First question is why do you want to assemble it differently? If the reason is to gain ingame advantage, well it is obviously MFA.

Second, you should consider does the new assembly give you any ingame advantage even though it was not motivated by it. If the answer is yes again, you should reconsider or tell your opponent beforehand and offer to treat it as it were assembled normally.

MFA, is not even remotely in question in this issue. First there is barely one if any and it would be just as much a disadvantage in as many situations as it would be an advantage. Secondly, MFA would be to claim that this was being assembled in a way that alters the existing model. It is not, it is assembling an existing model part in a way chosen by the player just as any one does every time they put together a multi part plastic model kit. All ranges are measured from the vehicle, with the only exception of embarking and disembarking. So units make a wide oval rather than a long oval? No advantage.

 DeathReaper wrote:
There are no rules that dictate how you put your models together.

That said, if you put your models together according to the instructions in the box, you are less likely to hear people complain about how they are assembled.

This

 G. Whitenbeard wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
There are no rules that dictate how you put your models together.

That said, if you put your models together according to the instructions in the box, you are less likely to hear people complain about how they are assembled.

This

Agreed as well, however if it gains you a significant advantage from the model shown. Not only will there be complaints but accusations as well.

Then these people need to stay at the grand tournaments and stay away from friendly games lol... lest they be beat with a pewter juggernaut model in a sock hahaha

 WarlordRob117 wrote:
Then these people need to stay at the grand tournaments and stay away from friendly games lol... lest they be beat with a pewter juggernaut model in a sock hahaha

Not just GT's but Tournaments as well. Don't bring some cheesy wishwash MFA garbage to a tourney and not expect to hear about it. Casual/friendly games by all means I love wishwash when there's not "swag" at stake

jhk_12 wrote:
there is no problem with being stable, and the reason i have it sideways is that on a stormraven i considered that since the wingspan is bigger it would make sense that i put it that way to represent this since the base represents the the distance the the flyer if you were to measure to it to the hull.

Mostly what the base is used for (in the case of transports at least) is the disembarkation of troops. The SR has access points front, sides, and rear, which are abstracted to base contact. However, if you'll notice the shape of the base is almost exactly the footprint of the crew compartment, if mounted lengthwise.

I can tell you I wouldn't make an issue of it, unless you were using the wider base for some sort of troop deployment shenanigans, in which case I might.

I really can't think of any advantage to be gained by mounting it sideways.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I really can't think of any advantage to be gained by mounting it sideways.

Only minor situational ones come to mind. Hover mode, disembarking. For simplicity sake we'll say LH side. Failed Charge.

Unit gos to assault the bird, fails by 1" due to base being sideways.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
I really can't think of any advantage to be gained by mounting it sideways.

Only minor situational ones come to mind. Hover mode, disembarking. For simplicity sake we'll say LH side. Failed Charge.

Unit gos to assault the bird, fails by 1" due to base being sideways.

Meh, same issue can come up regardless of how the base is positioned.

 Grey Templar wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
I really can't think of any advantage to be gained by mounting it sideways.

Only minor situational ones come to mind. Hover mode, disembarking. For simplicity sake we'll say LH side. Failed Charge.

Unit gos to assault the bird, fails by 1" due to base being sideways.

Meh, same issue can come up regardless of how the base is positioned.

However due to it's shooting LOS you generally wind up assaulting the front of it.

Ya it makes sense if you disembark. Looking at it that way would change how far they disembark by shortening the distance on the front and back and extending the distance from the sides. It makes sense that it best represents the model from that point then what I was thinking about the wing span.