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Hello there, Dakka!

Say an enemy unit shoots at a DE raider and causes 4 pens and 2 glances with none of them being mitigated through cover or anything. What is the order that the damage is applied (assuming all the same ap)? I know it all happens "simultaneously," but would the glancing hits 1st remove 2x HPs, then the next penetrating hit 1st deducts it's HP causing an instant wreck (and thus not having to roll on the damage chart)? Should each hit be rolled individually and damage allocated as you roll? Or do all the HPs get deducted 1st (ie. suffers 6 HP loss, then would roll on the damage chart if it was still alive....which it won't be)? I dunno b/c of the whole simultaneous thing, though it seems to me that the order in which damage is applied would be significant for transports if it means the passengers are only potentially pinned instead of additionally taking all those S4 hits. Thoughts?

It's all at the same time, which means you will still roll on the damage table and see if it gos boom.

Mind you Raiders are open topped, so the explosion will only be str 3 if memory serves me correct

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:
It's all at the same time, which means you will still roll on the damage table and see if it gos boom.

Mind you Raiders are open topped, so the explosion will only be str 3 if memory serves me correct

Nope, that was changed in 6th. Open topped raiders = death for DE.

It's one of the many reasons why Wyches are now awful.

You still have to roll on the damage table to see if it explodes from the penetrating hits.

Everything at once, you get 4 glances and 4 pens, well you know its wrecked but you need to roll the 4 pens to see if it explodes (your arent worried about any other results bc the vehicle is def wrecked, the only thing worse is it explodes). All of it happens at the same time.


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 edbradders wrote:
You still have to roll on the damage table to see if it explodes from the penetrating hits.

I think he was talking about the explosion for open top is now STR4.

Oh, well. Thanks for the quick replies, all!

 jkpz28 wrote:
Everything at once, you get 4 glances and 4 pens, well you know its wrecked but you need to roll the 4 pens to see if it explodes (your arent worried about any other results bc the vehicle is def wrecked, the only thing worse is it explodes). All of it happens at the same time.


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 edbradders wrote:
You still have to roll on the damage table to see if it explodes from the penetrating hits.

I think he was talking about the explosion for open top is now STR4.

Ouch looking that up, Open Topped vehicles taking a str 4 hit inside. Ouch, what a terrible thing for DE and Ork players

This still sometimes baffles me; all damage is at the same time. If the vehicle sustains a stun result and at the same time gets wrecked. Does the stun still carry over and such the passengers (now disembarked) still cannot shoot (unless snaps)?

Yes. You apply all damage results.

Cool thanks

Just to add - the rules for hull point loss state to roll on the damage chart if the last hull point was from a penetrsating hit, so even if you applied results sequentially you still arrive at the same result - you roll on the chart

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

 jkpz28 wrote:
Everything at once, you get 4 glances and 4 pens, well you know its wrecked but you need to roll the 4 pens to see if it explodes (your arent worried about any other results bc the vehicle is def wrecked, the only thing worse is it explodes). All of it happens at the same time.


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 edbradders wrote:
You still have to roll on the damage table to see if it explodes from the penetrating hits.

I think he was talking about the explosion for open top is now STR4.

Ouch looking that up, Open Topped vehicles taking a str 4 hit inside. Ouch, what a terrible thing for DE and Ork players

well except ork trukks still ramshackle with str 3. (we ramshackle even if glanced to death but the FAQ did not adjust the str of the blast stated on the ramshackle table.) battlewagons do take the str 4 hit though.