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pics at http://sining83.blogspot.com/2012/10/vlad3-vs-esorscha.html

Spoiler alert; Turns out I can't assassinate with Vlad worth nuts.

Khador
Vlad3
-Drago

Uhlans
Markov
Fenris
Doomreavers
Widowmakers

Khador
eSorscha
-Spriggan
-Sylyss

Winterguard with UA
Kovnik Joe
Fenris
Saxxon Orrik
Reinholdt
Widowmakers
Great Bears

Right, I win deployment again.

Turn 1
-Hand of Fate on Uhlans, Infernal machine on Drago. Widow makers activate after Vlad to avoid getting terror tests from the doomreavers. Everything runs.
+He runs up as well. Sorscha casts IF on the winterguard.

Turn 2
-Okay, technically Sorscha is within 14" +2" of Vlad. I can feat, sidestep and get into her reach. It's a risky manuever cause after that I'll be within her range. I do it anyway because I still can't believe I missed assassinating Strakhov in the previous game. Long story short. I fail. However, I did manage to kill something so I sprint back. Uhlans run up to block the way however I make a mistake and move one too close to the Spriggan, which Sorscha has bonded. This means it's now frozen. This will be important later on. Everything else runs up in place.
+Sorscha moves up and casts freezing grip on the frozen Uhlan. This causes the whole unit to become stationary. Due to that, his Winterguard which were engaged are now no longer engaged. One feat turn and many winterguard CRAing Vlad later, Vlad is dead.

Thoughts on game
Hmmm, I'm not sure if I'm either experiencing a really unlucky streak on the dice or if Vlad3 isn't that cut out for the assassination run himself. Which would mean he's a lot better as a support unit. Def17 winterguard don't hurt my opponents chances of surviving either.

One vital mistake I made was leaving that 1 Uhlan within 2" of the Spriggan. Otherwise they would have been much harder to hit. Not impossible since Sorscha could very well have walked up to them and cast the spell anyway, but def 13 is still a lot better than def 5.

I would like some AOE options in the list but they move way too slowly for them to keep up with everything else in the list. Hence the widowmakers. Of course, there's still the issue of needing 10s to hit a def17 winterguard. Or 8 if I stay still, both above average rolls.

Best thing to do for this is to run the numbers on the scenario. Take the dice completely out and see what average dice rolls will do in that scenario.

Personally, I think Vlad3 as the assassin is a trap. He punches the hole with flashing blade and ride by and the other cav pours through that hole and finishes the job.

Yeah, my own experiences kind of support that. Vlad can't really kill any warcaster above armor 16 reliably. He works much better as a support piece although he can tank with the best of them at 23 armor