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I found no faq on this and no good way of figuring this one out as the rules are written poorly. It makes mention to an army make have a marker then later on says something that makes it feel like multiple markers.

If I have multiple rune priests in an army that each pay the points for chooser of the slain do they each get a marker or only 1? The price they pay is for each rune priest being able to use the one marker for increased ballestic skill?

I would not think the intent was for Space Wolves to deny infiltrators completely in a game by allowing multiple markers across the battle field. What can I use to cite my source as their is no faq on this?

Each priest would get a marker as there's nothing saying that only one priest may have a chooser.

dfer74 wrote:
I would not think the intent was for Space Wolves to deny infiltrators completely in a game by allowing multiple markers across the battle field. What can I use to cite my source as their is no faq on this?

Don't GK servo skulls do this already?

Only 1. It states the army, not the rune priest personal.

IamCaboose wrote:
Each priest would get a marker as there's nothing saying that only one priest may have a chooser.

dfer74 wrote:
I would not think the intent was for Space Wolves to deny infiltrators completely in a game by allowing multiple markers across the battle field. What can I use to cite my source as their is no faq on this?

Don't GK servo skulls do this already?

however it does state.

An army that includes a chooser of the slain, may place a marker.

If your army includes 4 Chooser of the slain, placing a marker fulfils the rule.

So I can take 4 priests and buy a chooser for one of them and they all benefit from it?

IamCaboose wrote:
So I can take 4 priests and buy a chooser for one of them and they all benefit from it?

Not sure what you mean by "they all benefit from it"

if you have 4 rune priests you have 'a chooser of the slain' so you may place a marker.

A marker means 1.

 DeathReaper wrote:

IamCaboose wrote:
So I can take 4 priests and buy a chooser for one of them and they all benefit from it?

Not sure what you mean by "they all benefit from it"

if you have 4 rune priests you have 'a chooser of the slain' do you may place a marker.

A marker means 1.

Thanks, I got what "A" means.

Let me elaborate on my question. If I have 4 rune priests and I buy 1 chooser, do all 4 priests benefit from the +1 BS rule of the chooser?

No, they do not all benefit.

The wording of Chooser of the slain tells us this.

"Should the rune priest make a shooting attack at a target that has line of sight to the Chooser marker, he may treat his BS as one higher than normal."

In the context of the Rule, the rune priest is the rune priest that bought the Chooser of the slain.

Hmm, still not convinced.

But seeing as I don't use choosers anyways, I'll concede.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Only 1. It states the army, not the rune priest personal.

Sorry nos are you saying if you have 4 priests you can have a maximum of 1 chooser?

No, Nos is saying that no matter how many choosers of the slain you have, you only get 1 Chooser marker.

Where does it say that? It says the army that includes a chooser may place a marker, it doesn't say that for 4 choosers you only get 1 marker.

""An army that includes a Chooser of the Slain may place a Chooser marker anywhere on the battlefield.......""

Your army may place A marker. So that is 1 marker for your army, not per RP.

Edit

Does the army contain a CotS. Yes.. then it can place a marker.

It does not say... For each RP with CotS you may place a marker.

Army is singular, marker is singular.

And yes.. "the RP may add 1 to his BS"(paraphrased) does not specify which RP can use its ability.

In a case where I have an x, I place a y.
I don't see a problem with having a second x and placing a second y in this statement. It looks to me like an operation.
If the statement was any of the following non-exhaustive examples it would be limited to one marker only.
In a case where I have any x, I place a y.
In a case where I have an x, I place a maximum of 1 y.


The marker's benefit is specific to the chooser and the rune priest that is equipped with it. As the marker is singular but the priest that gets the benefit is a definite priest (the priest), so we have a dilemma.
I pay for 4 choosers, I may only place 1 marker. Which priest gets the benefit?

This marker must be smaller than the priest. Implication of the marker being tied to one priest only, similar to the last line.
The enemy may infiltrate within 18" of a marker, not the marker. The implication of multiple markers especially since the previous line talks about the marker.

From the context it seems to me that each chooser gets a marker and that each marker is tied to one priest only.

 liturgies of blood wrote:
In a case where I have an x, I place a y.
I don't see a problem with having a second x and placing a second y in this statement. It looks to me like an operation.
If the statement was any of the following non-exhaustive examples it would be limited to one marker only.
In a case where I have any x, I place a y.
In a case where I have an x, I place a maximum of 1 y.


The marker's benefit is specific to the chooser and the rune priest that is equipped with it. As the marker is singular but the priest that gets the benefit is a definite priest (the priest), so we have a dilemma.
I pay for 4 choosers, I may only place 1 marker. Which priest gets the benefit?

This marker must be smaller than the priest. Implication of the marker being tied to one priest only, similar to the last line.
The enemy may infiltrate within 18" of a marker, not the marker. The implication of multiple markers especially since the previous line talks about the marker.

From the context it seems to me that each chooser gets a marker and that each marker is tied to one priest only.

You can pay for 4 if you like, but I only see permission to place a marker.

OK, then explain who gets the benefit of the marker.

Context I would say the RP that purchased the upgrade, but RAW I would say any RP in your army.

The options for this that I see is either you may only have one chooser marker, but all RPs should be able to gain the benefit of it,

or

you place one marker for each RP but they are tethered to a specific one (RP 1 buys Chooser A, only gets +1 BS from Chooser A, not Chooser B-D)

I go for the second option and nobody has ever said anything to me about how I play or read it.

It doenst, however, follow the rules. The rules allow you A marker in your army, no matter how many you buy

Fine, nos I see where you come from. The problem is that that reading of the rules is yet to be squared away with the rest of the paragraph and with the ability for more than 1 rune priest to own a chooser of the slain.

Also the rules don't say A marker no matter how many you buy. It just says a marker for a chooser, that is not a definitive statement of ONE marker only.

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Fine, nos I see where you come from. The problem is that that reading of the rules is yet to be squared away with the rest of the paragraph and with the ability for more than 1 rune priest to own a chooser of the slain.

Also the rules don't say A marker no matter how many you buy. It just says a marker for a chooser, that is not a definitive statement of ONE marker only.

Yea, but the rules do state an Army may place A marker IIRC.

It's a bit silly but, well it's silly

How many armies do you have:? One? Then you place A marker, singular.

Yes, now as I asked please square away the rest of the rules for that piece of wargear. Cos it doesn't work.

 liturgies of blood wrote:
Yes, now as I asked please square away the rest of the rules for that piece of wargear. Cos it doesn't work.

you act like SW's are the only ones that can buy wargear that does zilch ^^

you can buy and have multiple markers. the rule

An army that includes a chooser of the slain, may place a marker.

doesnt mean you cannot have multiple priests with 1 each in the same way as the rule.

a model with 1A in its characteristics are allowed to make 1 attack at its initiative step

doesnt disallow the rest of the models in the unit thier attacks.

(I have not qouted the exact wording of BRB because I dont have it ATM but I hope you can see my point)

However, it isnt even broken to purchase 4 rune priests to lock down the table from infiltrators. It would be directly stupid in any game to invest that many points in priests.