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Hey Dakka -
So I know the current meta about 6E is that Mech is dead.......Booo! I wonder though, since so many players are moving from melta to plasma and lots of infantry if it really is? As a Blood Angel player from 5th (aka. razor spam) I have a ton of tanks and a lot of those tanks are AV13+. I have come up with the following list in hopes that it can still beat some face and prove the meta wrong. Basically saturation of AV13.

I would really like some C&C on this list.

HQ:
Libby (Shield and FoD)

Troop:
Assault Squad x5
(No JP's) Land Raider Crusader w/ MM

Assault Squad x5
With JP's (Loaded into SR w/o Hurricane Bolters)

Assault Squad x5
Las/Plas Razorback w/ Dozerblade

Assault Squad x5
Las/Plas Razorback w/ Dozerblade

Fast Attack:
Baal Predator w/ HB Sponsons

Baal Predator w/ HB Sponsons

Baal Predator w/ HB Sponsons

heavy Support:
Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

Stormraven

Vindicator

Vindicator

2000

AV13 Wall with one flank protected by AV14 and the other by the board edge/Shield of Sang.

Looks pretty good. I have run a very similar list but took AC/HB sponson preds instead of vindis. Just keep in mind, the Librarians shield no longer radiates around the vehicle he is in. Just gives the same to the vehicle. Was in the FAQ. Other than that minor hang up ( may or may not be an issue) I think this list is fun.

Rats, I forgot about that FAQ.....No worries, maybe I will just give him Divination and he can TL his Razorback. HAHA! Excellent.

Thanks for the comment, Not too much feedback on BA these days.

I like it. BA mech is still alive and kicking. I do have one issue: I wanna know where the troops at! Where's the troops? Gimmie the troops!

20 marines isn't a lot in a 2k point game. If you want to score on a home objective who are you going to leave back? Are you going to bundle them back in their (potentially dead) transport and rush home on turn 4 to jump out again on turn 5?

It looks good, but you really need more troops in my opinion, it's going to be a struggle to get objectives with only 4x5 men.

 Griddlelol wrote:
I like it. BA mech is still alive and kicking. I do have one issue: I wanna know where the troops at! Where's the troops? Gimmie the troops!

20 marines isn't a lot in a 2k point game. If you want to score on a home objective who are you going to leave back? Are you going to bundle them back in their (potentially dead) transport and rush home on turn 4 to jump out again on turn 5?

It looks good, but you really need more troops in my opinion, it's going to be a struggle to get objectives with only 4x5 men.

Very True! I have not played a Mech list yet in 6th so it will be a learning experiance. I am going to try the skies of blood tactic come turn 4 or 5 if my SR isn't dead by that point. This really is a test list. I do worry though about the lack of troops. I could drop the jumpers for a full 10 man in the LRC, but still.......I tried to keep the 1 troop for every 500 pts and this seemed to be the only realistic way to mech up with 4 scoring units without going all AV11 Razors......

Would it be possible to drop a baal pred and take a tac squad with a LC and plasma gun then combat squad them. This'll give you some long range fire support and two more scoring units that would be quite happy to sit on a home objective.

The left over points (if there are any, I can't remember the costs off the top of my head) could be pumped into more men in the Land Raider.

It looks like a very fun list. Just remember the 25% cover rule, it really seems to make people mad when you cancel a pen on AV13 and AV14.

Just got done playing against one of my good buddies and his GK. I got lucky enough on my Warlord Trait to get the Re-roll reserves (strategic traits) enabling me to get both SR's in turn 2. I also took Divination Powers and rolled the 4+ invul and the shooting ignores cover. I promptly put my libby in the LRC and cast that 4++ all game! Wow! that makes an AV14 LRC nigh un-killable. I have to say that Mech is not dead in 6E. I ended up tabling the GK's.

Some awesome things I thought I would pass along about the game: Hurricane Bolters are totally worth the points. Especially against terminators. Assault Cannons are great at bringing down Flyers (TL really helps get the hits). The only thing I would change about the list would be to add Hurricane Bolters to the second SR.

Below is his list as close as i can get remember....

Coteaz

5x Terminators w/ Brotherhood champion and Psycannon

10x Strike Squad w/ 2x psycannon, 2x halberd, 2x Hammer (might have only been one...)

10x Strike squad w/ 2x psycannon, 2x halberd, 2x Hammer (might have only been one...)

Vindicare Assassin

Land Raider Redeemer

2x Storm Ravens w/ TL Lascannons, MM, and Hurricane bolters.

You have 4 Heavy Support choices, to get the double FoC you need to have a 2nd HQ choice.

 felixander wrote:
You have 4 Heavy Support choices, to get the double FoC you need to have a 2nd HQ choice.

Yes, I guess you are correct. That's pretty lame. The wording in the brb threw me off

Guess I will drop a Baal predator and grab a second Libby and add hurricane bolters to the second storm raven

 vyndetta85 wrote:
Just keep in mind, the Librarians shield no longer radiates around the vehicle he is in. Just gives the same to the vehicle. Was in the FAQ. Other than that minor hang up ( may or may not be an issue) I think this list is fun.

Which FAQ is that? I'm not seeing any such change to Shield of Sanguinius in either the BA or the main rulebook FAQs.

Well, in fact, mech lists will struggle in the new edition. However, there are ways to counter this, and you list actually contains some counters, as troops protected by tanks, flyers, and Vindicators which are awesome in the 6th ed.
Nevertheless you might struggle against a Necron flyer spam army, particularly, when you go first. Then the Necrons might be able to take down your flyers at first sight.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, in fact, mech lists will struggle in the new edition. However, there are ways to counter this, and you list actually contains some counters, as troops protected by tanks, flyers, and Vindicators which are awesome in the 6th ed.
Nevertheless you might struggle against a Necron flyer spam army, particularly, when you go first. Then the Necrons might be able to take down your flyers at first sight.

Yeah, there are certian lists that will cause a problem against an all mech list, like the necron flyer spam.....However, no one in my local area plays that sort of list.

 Falco wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, in fact, mech lists will struggle in the new edition. However, there are ways to counter this, and you list actually contains some counters, as troops protected by tanks, flyers, and Vindicators which are awesome in the 6th ed.
Nevertheless you might struggle against a Necron flyer spam army, particularly, when you go first. Then the Necrons might be able to take down your flyers at first sight.

Yeah, there are certian lists that will cause a problem against an all mech list, like the necron flyer spam.....However, no one in my local area plays that sort of list.

That's actually good for you. But I'd stream line the list when you face Nids (as you said).

 Mannahnin wrote:

 vyndetta85 wrote:
Just keep in mind, the Librarians shield no longer radiates around the vehicle he is in. Just gives the same to the vehicle. Was in the FAQ. Other than that minor hang up ( may or may not be an issue) I think this list is fun.

Which FAQ is that? I'm not seeing any such change to Shield of Sanguinius in either the BA or the main rulebook FAQs.

I also took a look at both FAQ's and I did not find that either. Could you provide more info on where it says that?

Also, revised list below:

HQ:
Libby

Troop:
Assault Squad x5 - LRC w/MM

Assault Squad x5 - JP's and Melta (Goes In SR)

Assault Squad x5 - JP's and Flamer (Goes In SR)

Assault Squad x5 - Laz/Plas w/ Dozer

Assault Squad x5 - Laz/Plas w/ Dozer

Fast Attack:
Baal Predator w/ HB's

Baal Predator w/ HB's

Baal Predator w/ HB's

Heavy:
Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

Vindicator

In the rulebook FAQ, it has something about powers while inside a transport, check there.

MarkyMark wrote:
In the rulebook FAQ, it has something about powers while inside a transport, check there.

Hmm, I found what I think you are talking about, but it is in the BRB on pg 67 and effect only powers that require line of sight. SoS does not require line of sight, correct me if I am wrong. The FAQ also says that 'area of effect' is still measured from the hull of a transport.

HQ:
Libby

powers? Divination or codex?

Troop:
Assault Squad x5 - LRC w/MM

This is so much fun good choice i'd say

Assault Squad x5 - JP's and Melta (Goes In SR)

Assault Squad x5 - JP's and Flamer (Goes In SR)

I may be wront but I think you can take these as one unit for slightly less and combat squad em (or not, as you choose). With this you could give your sergeant some other weapon... or something...

Assault Squad x5 - Laz/Plas w/ Dozer

Assault Squad x5 - Laz/Plas w/ Dozer

I dont like the AV11 but with all the AV13+ im not too worried. I dont know if I'd do the dozer though...

Fast Attack:
Baal Predator w/ HB's

Baal Predator w/ HB's

Baal Predator w/ HB's

God I love me some Baals

Heavy:
Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

These guys are so good... what other weapons are you taking though?

Vindicator

This guys fun...

I'm really sorry I haven't been more helpful, but I pretty much never mech. My standard advice is pretty basic, to know that AV<13 is worse while AV13+ is better than it was in 5th. I hope you never face flamer spam.
-JAMOB

JAMOB wrote:

HQ:
Libby

powers? Divination or codex?

Troop:
Assault Squad x5 - LRC w/MM

This is so much fun good choice i'd say

Assault Squad x5 - JP's and Melta (Goes In SR)

Assault Squad x5 - JP's and Flamer (Goes In SR)

I may be wront but I think you can take these as one unit for slightly less and combat squad em (or not, as you choose). With this you could give your sergeant some other weapon... or something...

Assault Squad x5 - Laz/Plas w/ Dozer

Assault Squad x5 - Laz/Plas w/ Dozer

I dont like the AV11 but with all the AV13+ im not too worried. I dont know if I'd do the dozer though...

Fast Attack:
Baal Predator w/ HB's

Baal Predator w/ HB's

Baal Predator w/ HB's

God I love me some Baals

Heavy:
Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

Stormraven w/ Hurricane Bolters

These guys are so good... what other weapons are you taking though?

Vindicator

This guys fun...

I'm really sorry I haven't been more helpful, but I pretty much never mech. My standard advice is pretty basic, to know that AV<13 is worse while AV13+ is better than it was in 5th. I hope you never face flamer spam.
-JAMOB

Powers = Divination all the way!!

Your definitly right about the 2 five man squads, I think will put them as one troop choice and combat squad. Give them both flamers and throw a PW on the Sgt. in the LRC.

On the SR's I have Assault Cannons/MM. More DAKKA!!!!

k Just dont ever take HB. They are incredibly inefficient... for anything pretty much. I dont like them.

Sounds good GLHF

I really am starting to like Typhoon, hurricanes and AC's for the SR's, and extra armour is a must if you play this competievely. One stunned and your flyer could well be crashing.

I did take the HB (didnt think of the TML at first) and it is good when combined with AC and hurricanes at rapid fire, because you get to roll lots of dice! but typhoon is better as it is multi purpose MM is good for anti armour but its one dice.