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If I take a bastion or a fortress of redemption and park a land raider in front of it (or perhaps if you have to shoot at it through a tall forest or something) would it get a cover save?

Cheers
Neal

It uses the rules for Vehicles, so as long as its 25% obscured.

Out of interest, and I've suspected this could be the case - would something like the KFF grant its cover save to structures within 6"?

Yes, yes it does.

Park that Big Mek in the tower

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yes, yes it does.

Park that Big Mek in the tower

Why would the KFF work on a building?

40k-noob wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yes, yes it does.

Park that Big Mek in the tower

Why would the KFF work on a building?

Why wouldn't it? It counts as a vehicle, KFF works on vehicles.

 grendel083 wrote:

40k-noob wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Yes, yes it does.

Park that Big Mek in the tower

Why would the KFF work on a building?

Why wouldn't it? It counts as a vehicle, KFF works on vehicles.

I dont play Orks so I dont know the rules for KFF but if it affects vehicles then that doesn't mean it would affect Buildings.

Buildings have aspects of vehicles...
That does not make them vehicles.

The KFF gives units within range a cover save. Is a building a unit? I think not.

 kronk wrote:
The KFF gives units within range a cover save. Is a building a unit? I think not.

It also makes vehicles count as Obscured.

 kronk wrote:
The KFF gives units within range a cover save. Is a building a unit? I think not.

Check the definition of a unit.

BRB Page 3 wrote:In Warhammer 40,000, we represent this by grouping models
together into units. A unit usually consists of several models
that have banded together, but a single, powerful model, such as
alone character, a tank, a war engine or a rampaging monster, is
also considered to be a unit in its own right.

Nothing but fluff and guidance in that paragraph.. It's hardly a total collection of rules on units. What's a rampaging monster?

Isn't it a 6" bubble? Would that mean that the bubble extends 6" in every direction from the building? Is that how it works on vehicles or from the centerpoint?

With all that's given so far, I'm leaning towards yes, the building gets cover. I also understand how ridiculous that is, but find it funnier that abusive. Now I actually want to go against one.

I believe it states that if the Big Mek with KFF is embarked in a vehicle, you measure from the hull of the vehicle.

thats kinda what I was afraid of. That is one big bubble.

 Brometheus wrote:
Nothing but fluff and guidance in that paragraph.. It's hardly a total collection of rules on units. What's a rampaging monster?

"A unit usually consists of several models ... but a single ... model is also considered to be a unit in its own right."
It's not all fluff.

And without that definition there's literally no definition of a unit in the book - so there's that.

Pg 109 bottom right under Fortifications:

"Unlike units, fortifications are not found in codexes. Instead,
you'Il find a selection presented in this book (see page ll4),
whilst others will be presented in \7hite Dwarf and through
our website : www. games-workshop.com"

I would say that the BRB does not define Fortifications as "units" based on this section.

What is "\7hite Dwarf"?

 DeathReaper wrote:
What is "\7hite Dwarf"?

It's what happens when you copy and past from PDF.doc's sometimes

 NealRC wrote:
If I take a bastion or a fortress of redemption and park a land raider in front of it (or perhaps if you have to shoot at it through a tall forest or something) would it get a cover save?

40k-noob wrote:
Buildings have aspects of vehicles...
That does not make them vehicles.

Page 92: BUILDINGS: 'Buildings of all types use aspects of the Transport vehicle rules. The main difference is between buildings and actual vehicles is that they can't move, and units from the other side can go inside.'

No, they are not vehicles, but they follow all of the rules associated with vehicles with exceptions above, i.e.: transport capacity, armour value, rules for obscuring, etc. A KFF or obscurement of 25% of the applicable armour facing would grant a cover save.