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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/10 04:12:42
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Sneaky Kommando
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This is a list that I have been running a lot lately, thanks to the influx of csm players adding to the large number of marine players in the store already. Felt like I would share it with you all!
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Zahndrekh (185)
Obyron (160)
Overlord w/ scythe, scarabs, weave, orb (160)
Lord scythe, scarabs, orb (90)
Lord scythe, scarabs (60)
Cryptek, eternity, everything (70)
Cryptek, eternity, everything (70)
Cryptek, transmogrification, harp (55)
(575)
Elites-
Lychguard w/ sword and board (450) joined by obyron, overlord, and both eterniteks
Troops-
Immortals x10 Tesla (170) joined by 90pt lord, harptek
Immortals x10 Gauss(170) joined by zahndrekh, 60pt lord
(340)
Heavy Support
Annihilation Barge x3 (270)
(1750)
The way this works is- tell your opponents you have a mob of power swords on the field and freak them out. Then, get those lychguard into reflect range asap, thus making attempting to hit them with high-str low ap blasts (vindicator, plasma cannon, ect) a tricky prospect. The moral is, 3+ armor, 4+ invuln, 5 toughness, and 4+ reanimate makes this squad incredibly hard to kill, and when your opponent dials in on them, the rest of your army can unload. The big worry is, once again, high-str, low ap blast weapons. Get those off the table asap. I have personally seen this squad take my opponent's full round of shooting and come out ready to smack bitches, but those blasts will ruin your day. Also, don't forget the cronometron uses! 2 rerolls on any d6 a round help majorly, try to save em for saves or failed re-animates. Other than that, immortals grab objectives, and the annihilation barges are good, cheap gunboats.
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"Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad."- Rincewind
4000 Kahmelot Dynasty
10000 WAAAGH! Deffgubinz It's gettin bigga all da time!
3000 Pre-Heresy Alpha Legion
6000 WHFB Dwarfs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/10 18:24:14
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Too less troops and too HQ heavy. If you want a deathstar vs. Marines, then go for Wraiths and Dlord(s).
In a recent RTT, in the final my Necrons picked apart a Nurgle army led by Typhus himself. Wraiths can do it even vs. Plague Marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 04:35:55
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just no, lytchguard just don't make a great Deathstar. If you want a great deathstar against marines just go for a full naked court. Costs 300pts and with the points saved from your deathstar you can give it a res orb and some weaves. Then attach Obyron to it and suddenly you have a death star that can put out 30 str5 ap3 shots, thats a unit wipe a turn(against marines). With obyron you can re-position your self after each volley and even jump out of combat. In combat you have obyron who is no slouch. And when shot at you have majority toughness of 5 plus some 2+ saves so the only thing that will give you hassles are plasma and lascannons. 15 dead marines a turn is what will truly make a death star( i mean you opponent can't even take that many in a squad) and it can do that from turn 1. The power sword on the lytchguard is just a gakky staff of light now that they have nerfed power swords. The court is the true necron Death Star. As wuestenfux said wraiths are more practical since there alot cheaper and give you more options against non-marine opponents, but if your willing to put 450pts into lytchguard for fighting marines, just put that into a court if your taking obyron it will be far more effective. I mean the staff of light should just be renamed the marine killer.
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Psienesis wrote:While that's possible, it's also stupid to build your game around your customers being fething morons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 04:33:44
Subject: Re:1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Sneaky Kommando
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What this squad has going for it when I run it is the fact that it is damned-near invincible, and I find that my opponent will oftentimes devote massive firepower towards it to prove me wrong. I know about the court deathstar, and that's a fun list, don't get me wrong, but I was just sharing this saying "I have had success with it, it's pretty fun to run!"
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"Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad."- Rincewind
4000 Kahmelot Dynasty
10000 WAAAGH! Deffgubinz It's gettin bigga all da time!
3000 Pre-Heresy Alpha Legion
6000 WHFB Dwarfs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 04:40:41
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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I only wish the Royal Court could take a dedicated transport. The "Ghost Ark Shuffle" doesn't work in every situation.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 06:48:25
Subject: Re:1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Interesting list Dragonfodder.
I would recommend swapping your generic Overlord with Trazyn. Give the LG some anti-horde punch and make them scoring.
You could also swap Oby for a Scythe to transport the LG, although Oby does have the added benefit of protecting Zandy and giving them some late game teleport options.
The list does seem to be short on troops however if you could make that LG unit scoring (Trazyn) you could mitigate that short coming quite a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 09:33:25
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dragonfodder wrote:
Elites-
Lychguard w/ sword and board (450) joined by obyron, overlord, and both eterniteks
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I don't think you can have 2 crypteks in the same unit unless they are in their own separate unit, can you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 14:35:52
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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That is extremely incorrect.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 19:37:29
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well thanks for saying why....
Forgot per overlord you can have a royal court
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 21:26:28
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I ran a list like this for a while. it is fun. I ran the stormtek for the added AV punch they have the one you are useing don't seam to help the unit much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/09 22:09:52
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)
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A real mean tactic to do is to take a squad of 5-10 scytheguard with obyron then take zandy in barge turn one zoom him up then deepsrike ur guard 6" away from him and laugh at ur enemy when you have 30 scythe attacks swing at their anything s face and then when ur finished if its still alive say "BUT WAIT THERES MOAR!!!" And then you have oby finish the job
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"Put your 1st best against you opponents 2nd best, your 2nd best against their 3rd best, and your 3rd best against their 1st best"-Sun Tzu's Art of War
"If your not winning, try a bigger sword! Usually works..."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:30:01
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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A GumyBear wrote:A real mean tactic to do is to take a squad of 5-10 scytheguard with obyron then take zandy in barge turn one zoom him up then deepsrike ur guard 6" away from him and laugh at ur enemy when you have 30 scythe attacks swing at their anything s face and then when ur finished if its still alive say "BUT WAIT THERES MOAR!!!" And then you have oby finish the job
You mean so you can have them sit there for an entire turn, exposed, out in the open, in rapid fire range, with nothing but their mediocre armor saves to protect them from the hail of bolters sure to be thrown at them before they can do anything other than stand around with their thumbs up their metal asses?
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Good job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:34:59
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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I sense much anger in this one.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:36:05
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Also, OP, ... I really hope you meant to say "2 D6 rerolls a round"
because if you've been rerolling your rerolls, I think it's safe to say we know why your deathstar is "invincible"...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/01/10 04:59:06
Subject: 1750 Necron anti MEQ Deathstar
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
Some Tomb World in some galaxy by that one thing in that one place (or Minnesota for nosy people)
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^^^ lol
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skoffs wrote: A GumyBear wrote:A real mean tactic to do is to take a squad of 5-10 scytheguard with obyron then take zandy in barge turn one zoom him up then deepsrike ur guard 6" away from him and laugh at ur enemy when you have 30 scythe attacks swing at their anything s face and then when ur finished if its still alive say "BUT WAIT THERES MOAR!!!" And then you have oby finish the job
You mean so you can have them sit there for an entire turn, exposed, out in the open, in rapid fire range, with nothing but their mediocre armor saves to protect them from the hail of bolters sure to be thrown at them before they can do anything other than stand around with their thumbs up their metal asses?
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Good job.
you underestimate the power of t5 against bolters and +they can get back up afterwards and also you will have more things around to draw fire like 6 monoliths because i know how much you love those and yes bolters will be shot at av14
why?
because bacon
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