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This is the list I usually use for competitive gameplay and I think it's quite viable, but what are your guys opinions?

2 Shermans
3 Shermans, 1 Firefly
3 Shermans, 1 Firefly
3 Shermans, 1 Firefly
4 Stuarts
4 M10 17" Pdr
4 Sextons
Infantry Platoon

What do you think?

Not bad, I would be tempted to swap out the M10s for another Sherman platoon (and drop one of the stuarts or 'downgrade' them to jalopies) but that really depends on your local metagame.

Thanks for the advice!

With the company I'm using, I cannot get Jalopies which kinda sucks, but Stuarts are very useful. I think the M10's are invaluable because the amount of Panthers that are out there now a days. More Shermans just couldn't cope with it I would think, they could deal with Infantry more with the Hull and Co-Ax MGs but other then that, another 3 more shermans plus better armoured TD isn't worth it :(.

 Poppabear wrote:
This is the list I usually use for competitive gameplay and I think it's quite viable, but what are your guys opinions?

2 Shermans
3 Shermans, 1 Firefly
3 Shermans, 1 Firefly
3 Shermans, 1 Firefly

I think this is a great core, I assume this is 1750? - I run canadian armour (CT) and always go for 3 sherman platoons.

 Poppabear wrote:

4 Stuarts

Recon Stuarts? I'd be more tempted for jalopies too, but can't go wrong here.

 Poppabear wrote:

4 M10 17" Pdr

Again a solid choice, you can't go wrong with these guys, I just find they need some decent support to get more than 2 turns shooting

 Poppabear wrote:

4 Sextons

See I love sextons, but have lost favour with them! The nice bit about sherman's is direct smoke, and as sextons as artillery are a bit pants, i find i've dropped them more for other goodies.

 Poppabear wrote:

Infantry Platoon

I'm intrigued to know how this platoon works, I'd have thought they would have got left behind by the tanks.

I have to say i'm thinking about trying the polish infantry list from the PDF, http://www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx?art_id=644, you get to defend vs tanks, but can take 2 sherman platoons and a platoon of M10's think it'll suit me

 Poppabear wrote:
Thanks for the advice!

With the company I'm using, I cannot get Jalopies which kinda sucks, but Stuarts are very useful. I think the M10's are invaluable because the amount of Panthers that are out there now a days. More Shermans just couldn't cope with it I would think, they could deal with Infantry more with the Hull and Co-Ax MGs but other then that, another 3 more shermans plus better armoured TD isn't worth it :(.

Well its a choice between a much more versatile platoon with some decent AT capacity and a strong AT platoon which is fragile and useless against infantry. The M10s would probably be better in a competative tournament setting due to all the heavy tanks that they attract while the Shermans would be better in club setting, IMO at least.


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 Reaver83 wrote:

I'm intrigued to know how this platoon works, I'd have thought they would have got left behind by the tanks.

They do, but that just means that they form a nice second wave. I always use infantry in armour lists.

Whenever I use armoured without inf I generally wish I had brought some... M10s are also a good way to go if you aren't bringing any dedicated AT guns. Sure they are fragile but with so many shermans flying about I doubt they'll be a primary target so long as they keep their distance.

The Sherman platoons also have a Firefly so they are still a threat to heavies.

Looks like a solid list.
My suggestions;-
I would be to drop the Stuarts, and replace them with Universal Carrier Scout Platoon(s).(if they are available.)
And then get some AA.(Crusader AA or SP bofors.)

Because the AA is great at anti infantry if you are facing no enemy aircraft.(And tanks can get swamped by infantry hoards.)

I am also not that impressed with the Sextons.(Standard 25pdr battery puts down the same fire and is cheaper, if available,)
(I often 'make do' with priority typhoon support instead of arty.As Sherman Vs can fire smoke)

As far as infantry go, US paras fearless veterans are ACE IMO.(11th armoured div Grenadier guards .PDF)

Are you moving infantry as tank riders , or are you using lorries?
(I prefer lorrying infantry over loading them on tanks.)

The idea behind the infantry was to just plant them in one of the key objectives, dig in, go to ground and just hold out while the tanks go do their thing.

I would take universal carriers, but do not have the option. Stuarts seem to do OK, they survive much better and have in the past taken out quite a few Panzers and Panthers (sides shots of course), AT 7 is pretty reliable for these little guys.

I find Sextons reliable in the sense that they cannot get pinned and can piss off when things start to get a bit to close for comfort

Crusader AA's are useful but I have the Stuarts and M10's which give me .50 Cal AA so I find the Crusaders to be a bit of point sink

Reaver: I've tried the Polish PDF in friendly's and they don't work well, the fearless is nice but, its all about the vets. Instead, try the Brit Armoured from Fortress Europe or the 11th Armoured PDF, they work a lot better then Fearless Trained.

Hi Poppabear.
I guess its different strokes for different folks...

I thought Stuarts were a bit of a points sink for a recon unit.(So picked a list with the little old U/Cs)As the 17pdrs of the Fireflys and Achilees pop lots of armour !
(Typhoons can kick bottom too!)

And SP bofors have been a staple of mine since being mauled by some lucky air strikes!

I guess I am just impatient ,it always seems like my infantry has a long march to objectives.(A couple of 3ton lorries speeds up thier objective taking and is quite cheap.)

I am a fan of the 11th armoured div too...