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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

Since reading the latest Blood Angels HH novel I've been really hung up on the character of the Red Angel. Without spoiling he's basically a BA that has been posessed by a very powerfull Khorne daemon. It's an awesome bit of fluff and as soon as I read it I knew exactly what I wanted to do.

So here is the wip. He's a kitbash of WFB WoC, WFB Beastmen, and CSM Posessed.




Here's his new kneecap:



And with his new helmet:


Getting the arms to line up was an hour long task:


The arms are cut and positioned in 6 different places:

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Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator





Good Ol' Texas

As a Blood Angel player, I should hate this, but I love it! My only gripe is I thought the Red Angel was covered with fire..?

Subbed!

Lucarikx

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/11/20 02:03:26



 
   
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Norn Queen






Err, isn't the Red Angel the name given to Angron?
   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

Ah the fire! I hadn't thought of that. Not sure there'd be a good way to model that, have to think on it.

You'd have to read the novel for the full story, but shortly the Red Angel was Angron's name, however the Red Angel is also a seperate entity.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Ship's Officer






The model looks ace. The fire might be a great opportunity for some OSL

As for the identity of the Red Angel:

"The Red Angel" is a term that has been applied to Angron, but was originally used for a mysterious, apparently possessed/captured Blood Angel space marine seen in the Horus Heresy: Collected Visions series. AFAIK he had no backstory and was simply shown in a single picture alongside Horus and the other main characters (also the source of Malogurst, Ingethel, etc).

This is the original image I think:

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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader






Sydney

Nice conversion/sculpting work there - he looks great.

Just wanted to ask if you tried him with the weapon around the other way, overhead swing vs leaping stab - cool either way really though!

Nice use of the Minotaur upper arms too.

   
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NorCal

Thanks for the compliments guys! I hadn't tried the overhead swing, I had a vision stuck in my head and got a little tunnel vision. I may flip it around though and see how it looks, thanks for the tip!

For backstory on the red angel see this book:
Spoiler:

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/11/19 06:09:05


Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
Made in us
Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

So I really liked the chain spear I had going on, but it was waaaay too flimsy. I tried to pin it but as I'd never pinned a model before I began to really feth it up about a third way through the process. so I'm trying out different weapon ideas and wanted some more opinions on which way to go.

Here is a spear option with a bulkier and hopefully more stable look:


And here is and overhead striking axe option:



And here is the old, flimsy, but kind of cool chain spear:


Any thoughts?

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

Nobody has any input? I really am stuck, can't decide which I like best. I'm kind of leaning towards the big banner.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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WestCoast

Very interesting! Honestly, I like the spear best. My only 2 bits about it would be first) the close hands grip doesn't help with the flimsy look, and second) I'm not sure I like the hand guard still attached to the spearhead.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,
Rawson

The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized
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nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth! 
   
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Dipping With Wood Stain







Axe. It just seems to fit better regarding size and pose.
   
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Rogue Grot Kannon Gunna





Russia, Saint-Petersburg

My vote for axe. Spear can do too, but axe fits better. The banner is a no go imo - looks most unnatural in that pose.

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Mighty Gouge-Horn






I would tend to agree with the axe voters here at the moment, its a bit more boring but fits the pose better I think, although to jazz it up a bit the axe could be burning (to include the fire element??) Greenstuffing fire Isn't toooo hard, I'm sure there are some good tutorials around too.

btw great looking concept in general, looking forwards to seeing more.

   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

Consensus seems to be the axe then! The whole concept began with the overhand spear strike so I'm loathe to completely eliminate it, however I think I can make the axe look "burny" enough to fit the character. Thanks guys.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

Just a small update:

I've gone with an overhand swing of a sword, foregoing the polearm as it was just too flimsy. Now I just need to figure out some sort of pommel for the sword and then I can finally start some painting on this guy!




Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

Got around to some painting. I'm really aprehensive about my skills doing my modeling justice, but I'm taking my time and trying my best. Any comments/tips/critisisms are welcome.

First couple layers of ink/wash with some minimal highliting on the armour.



Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Mighty Gouge-Horn






I dont think you need to be worried about this at all, its looking phenomenal! I think the armour in particular will really pop when you incorperate some more highlights. I'm really liking the wings too, not massively over the top inferno just slowly smouldering away at the edges, very nice.

How are you planning on doing the sword? Although I voted for a burning weapon before it might blend in a bit, maybe something that contrasts? A cold blue steel ?

Either way keep it up, Is looking REALLY good.

   
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NorCal

Thanks man, much appreciated. A "cold" sword is actually exactly what I was thinking about, once I started on the everything else I realized that he was going to be more than burn-y enough and a cold sharp sword will provide a perfect contrast. It's all new territory for me though so like I said, just taking my time. Thanks again for the input!

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





NorCal

More progress, some highlighting on the armour and I've started to bring the burning flesh up into yellow a little bit. The armour is going to be brought up to a pinkish highlight, just because organically that's where my pallete is taking me. However it's not particularly fluffy as this is supposed to have originally been a Blood Angel. I just felt like I needed contrast between the red armour and the flame wreathed flesh. Maybe I should go super dark with the armour? Looking at it now I'm thinking perhaps a really heavy wash with mud once I've got it all lined up.

Also I tried fiddling with some camera settings so the colors aren't as blown out as before. Don't know how much better it is though.




As always I crave your suggestions/tips/critiques.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife




Leeds, Uk

Great work brother

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Mighty Gouge-Horn






I think your right about the armour, go darker rather than lighter, at the moment your getting dangerously close to a pink marine! I think like you say wash it until its darker, I think a deep dark red would work really well against the bright skin thats looking really good btw!

   
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NorCal

Nearing the finish line here:




And some more:
Spoiler:




Going to give a light wash on the flames and try to blend the orange/yellow a bit better, and then bring the flames up to a white highlite. Not sure about the armour, I kind of like it now but I think perhaps one more light line on the edges. The sword also.
I have to say that I'm happy I decided to un-pink-ify the armour, looks much better now. I'm also more than a little proud that I haven't completely ruined many hours of modeling work and sculpting with my amateur painting! Definitely taking my time and learning more each time I pick up a brush, this is what makes the hobby enjoyable for me!

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
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Mighty Gouge-Horn






Good job! It looks much better with the darker red armour! in fact its looking awesome in general, you should be very proud!

   
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NorCal

Thanks J! I've lurked through some of your galleries and whatnot, and am very impressed with your work also. Do you see any areas here that could use more work? Or any particular techniques you think might pop on this guy?

Veteran Sergeant wrote:Oh wait. His fluff, at this point, has him coming to blows with Lionel, Angryon, Magnus, and The Emprah. One can only assume he went into the Eye of Terror because he still hadn't had a chance to punch enough Primarchs yet.

Albatross wrote:I guess we'll never know. That is, until Frazzled releases his long-awaited solo album 'Touch My Weiner'. Then we'll know.

warboss wrote:I marvel at their ability to shoot the entire foot off with a shotgun instead of pistol shooting individual toes off like most businesses would.

Mr Nobody wrote:Going to war naked always seems like a good idea until someone trips on gravel.

Ghidorah wrote: You need to quit hating and trying to control other haters hating on other people's hobbies that they are trying to control.

ShumaGorath wrote:Posting in a thread where fat nerds who play with toys make fun of fat nerds who wear costumes outdoors.

Marshal2Crusaders wrote:Good thing it wasn't attacked by the EC, or it would be the assault on Magnir's Crack.
 
   
 
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