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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/20 17:29:15
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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1 Warboss (HQ)
Bosspole; Cybork Body; Attack Squig;Power Klaw; Shoota;
Twin-linked Dakkaguns; Stikkbombz; Warlord; Warbike
7 Nob Bikers (troops)
Choppa (x4);Power Klaw (x3);Slugga (x7);
Twin-linked Dakkaguns; Waaagh!Banner (x1); Cybork Body; Warbike
1 Painboy
#Dok's Tools; 'Urty Syringe (x1); Cybork Body; Warbike
1 Big Mek (HQ)
'Eavy Armour; #Mek's Tools; Bosspole;Cybork Body; Choppa; Kustom Force Field; Stikkbombz
10 Lootas (Elites)
Deffguns (x10)
10 Lootas (Elites)
Deffguns (x10)
21 Ork Boyz (Troops)
Big Shoota (x2); Shoota (x19)
1 Nob
Power Klaw;Slugga
20 Ork Boyz (Troops)
Big Shoota (x2); Shoota (x18)
1 Nob
Bosspole; Power Klaw;Slugga
20 Ork Boyz (Troops)
Big Shoota (x2); Shoota (x18)
1 Nob
Bosspole; Power Klaw;Slugga
3 Big Gunz (Heavy Support)
Artillery; Kannon
Dakkajet (Fast Attack)
Fighta Ace; TL Supa-shoota (x3)
Aegis Defence Line
TOTAL: 1849 pts
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2012/12/02 21:49:30
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/20 17:34:59
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd drop all of the 'Eavy armour, and drop the Killcannon off the Battlewagon, so that you can get boyz inside. Then get another squad of Lootas, even if that means slightly shrinking the first one to get the points.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/20 17:36:00
-Tom Leighton
- Ireland ETC - Eldar - 2016
-Former 17 year old intro welcomer for dank post count. Pls forgive me <3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/20 17:49:44
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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Gotta say rokkits aint working sooo good, you'd be safer with big shootas and more boyz. and loota group gota be 10 or less for the ¨Go to ground¨move, more cover that way as with orks mob rule 11 and up becomes fearless^^ and as the guy above said, LOOTAS! :3
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/21 03:38:17
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Screamin' Stormboy
Stuck in wit da boyz
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Put the WB in mega armor and put him in the loota sqad so they can move and shoot. I like them in a BW myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/22 08:17:43
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Only 1 Kanon and 1 BW seems a bit light.
1 BW is going to be focused by all the AT your opponent will play with. 2 BW will give them more targets.
Imo or 2+ BW, or no BW.
Regarding the Kanon, only one won't be very effective. For me they should always be in pack of 3, with 1 or 2 ammo runt
Just my 2cts!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/22 08:38:22
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Krazed Killa Kan
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More Lootas. Drop red paint job. Can't transport 20 w kill Kannon. More Boyz. Automatically Appended Next Post: Back to drawing board brother.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/22 08:38:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/22 10:20:51
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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Nob bikers are great, if you have a lot of them
it would be better to drop the bikes and as said before get more lootas and boyz
also going to have to pick between all transport or no transport, either works
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/22 13:56:35
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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Thanks for all replys, going back to drawing/painting board...  Cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/25 12:37:56
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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Made some changes to the list and points are now up, 1850.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/26 11:32:01
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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Afraid you can't give your boyz nob sluggas if you got shoota boyz but not that matter, if you got a power weapon, you can only use the base attacks, the extra attack from slugga wont count when using the power klaw. And hope you got cover for your lootas i still recomend groups with ten of them because you can go to ground.
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 10:20:38
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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phatonic wrote:Afraid you can't give your boyz nob sluggas if you got shoota boyz but not that matter, if you got a power weapon, you can only use the base attacks, the extra attack from slugga wont count when using the power klaw. And hope you got cover for your lootas i still recomend groups with ten of them because you can go to ground.
from FAQ
Q. If a Boyz mob exchange sluggas and choppas with shootas, can a
Nob take a power klaw or a big choppa? (p100)
A. You may upgrade the Nob to have a big choppa or power
klaw before you choose to upgrade the mob to have shootas, in
which case the Nob is not affected by the mob’s weapon swap
(as he no longer has a choppa to swap), does not receive a
shoota and keeps his slugga and power klaw/big choppa
instead.
So i can give my Nob from shoota boy slugga
Also, not sure how is 10 Lootas related to going to ground?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 10:29:34
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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The deal is, orks got Mob rule right, at 11 or more you are fearless. Fearless units can't go to ground when being shot at wich the lootas gonna need^^ and got a link from the FAQ you are reading? the latest one i found didnt have any of that information about shoota/slugga nob.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/27 10:29:56
Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 10:34:24
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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ok thanks for the 10man fearless explanation
link is latest Ork FAQ on GW web page, page 6, second question:
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2570048a_Orks_v1.1.pdf
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 13:59:22
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
somewhere in the northern side of the beachball
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HQ: no whining here nobz: why bother with big choppas? statistically they just as good at killing marines as naked nob and you can't challenge with nobs. TROOPS: no whining here HS: Having 1 tank seems a bit poitless. Orks are all or nothing army. A single bw is going to get shot to pieces. I would just get another kannon battery and maybe a nob or two more. Or perhaps ADL grot crew can shoot with these. Lootas: Great idea from phatonic to drop to 10 members inorder to use go to ground (works well with adl) EDIT can't, not can. ty phatonic.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/11/27 17:15:35
Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/27 14:18:27
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
Norway (Oslo)
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Nobz as ellite, only special characters can challange, that would be either a HQ or painboy in the Ellite nob group read up the general FAQ.
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Waagh like a bawz
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Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed
6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/02 10:36:47
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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Ok, edited now, so please check it out.
Also, didn't gave it much thought, but who would be good allies for Orks?
cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/02 17:32:58
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Regular Dakkanaut
Wichita
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badtaste wrote:1 Warboss ( HQ)
Bosspole; Cybork Body; Attack Squig;Power Klaw; Shoota / Skorcha;
Twin-linked Dakkaguns; Stikkbombz; Warlord; Warbike
6 Nob Bikers (troops)
Big Choppa (x4);Power Klaw (x2);Slugga (x6);
Twin-linked Dakkaguns; Stikkbombz; Waaagh!Banner (x1); Cybork Body; Warbike
1 Painboy
#Dok's Tools; 'Urty Syringe (x1);Stikkbombz; Cybork Body; Warbike
1 Big Mek ( HQ)
'Eavy Armour; #Mek's Tools; Bosspole;Cybork Body; Choppa; Kustom Force Field; Stikkbombz
10 Lootas (Elites)
Deffguns (x10)
10 Lootas (Elites)
Deffguns (x10)
19 Ork Boyz (Troops)
Big Shoota (x2); Shoota (x17)
1 Nob
Bosspole; Power Klaw;Slugga
19 Ork Boyz (Troops)
Big Shoota (x2); Shoota (x17)
1 Nob
Bosspole; Power Klaw;Slugga
19 Ork Boyz (Troops)
Big Shoota (x2); Shoota (x17)
1 Nob
Bosspole; Power Klaw;Slugga
3 Big Gunz (Heavy Support)
Artillery; Kannon
3 Big Gunz (Heavy Support)
Artillery; Kannon
Dakkajet (Fast Attack)
Fighta Ace; TL Supa-shoota (x3)
Aegis Defence Line
TOTAL: 1847 pts
Drop stikbombs from nob bikers and big mek
Drop big choppas from nob bikers
Drop drop 1 battery of big gunz
Drop the shoota schorcha combi from the warboss
Drop the bosspole on the unit of boyz that the big mek is attached to
Add another nob biker
Add another PK to the nob bikers
Add more boyz to boyz units if points allow
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/02 22:39:02
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Squishy Squig
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@Gustuf
did it, cannot drop stikbombz from Big mek, comes with character...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/02 23:13:34
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Twisted Trueborn with Blaster
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Very very little need for Cybork on biker boss since he has a 4+ cover save no matter what. Outside of a heavy flamer, it's wasted points.
Minor critique though, looks solid as it currently stands!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/03 10:26:37
Subject: Re:Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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katfude wrote:Very very little need for Cybork on biker boss since he has a 4+ cover save no matter what. Outside of a heavy flamer, it's wasted points.
Minor critique though, looks solid as it currently stands!
Close combat? As he has a power klaw everyone's going to get the chance to hit him.
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-Tom Leighton
- Ireland ETC - Eldar - 2016
-Former 17 year old intro welcomer for dank post count. Pls forgive me <3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/03 13:45:35
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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CYBORK wrote:Put the WB in mega armor and put him in the loota sqad so they can move and shoot. I like them in a BW myself.
Wait what? Lootas can move and shoot as is they just fire snapshots but i didnt know having a slow and purposeful dude in a group let the WHOLE group fire and move.....i need to look that up cuz i only remember finding the group cant run if a slow bugger is in the vicinity.
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Also Cybork armor is a must in my opinion if you can get it at all. Ork armor is crap aside meganob, 4up saves never help me against anything that isnt other orks so i stopped getting 'Eavy Armor on my nobs and such as they just get pelted with AP4+ spams anyway.
Its only 10 points for your bosses, and its a guaranteed 5up save. Majority of my non-megaarmor saves on my WB are from this not the armor/cover save. Plus, some weapons still ignore cover and biker's 4up save is specifically stated as a cover save....so bleh lol.
Ive yet to run a painboy, im debating on putting the one i have sitting in pieces on toothpicks on a bike or just footslogging him with nonbiker nobs. Its 75pts as it is for a biker nob with a Klaw and Bosspole...the Painboy would be 100 lol and then 5 more points per nob in the group if i choose to get cybork for them.
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An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.
14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/03 13:56:11
Subject: Ork 1750 pts list, need advice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vineheart01 wrote:CYBORK wrote:Put the WB in mega armor and put him in the loota sqad so they can move and shoot. I like them in a BW myself.
Wait what? Lootas can move and shoot as is they just fire snapshots but i didnt know having a slow and purposeful dude in a group let the WHOLE group fire and move.....i need to look that up cuz i only remember finding the group cant run if a slow bugger is in the vicinity.
Slow and Purposeful first paragraph (paraphrasing), 'a unit that contains at least 1 model with this special rule......they can shoot with heavy weapons counting as stationary'. I know it's wierd, but it's what the rulebooks says.
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-Tom Leighton
- Ireland ETC - Eldar - 2016
-Former 17 year old intro welcomer for dank post count. Pls forgive me <3 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/03 15:38:57
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Big Mek in Kustom Dragster with Soopa-Gun
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Not sure why you would want your meganob boss to sit with them but i guess thats cool. Personally i dont like my lootas even getting remotely close to the enemy, i rarely move them after deployment and if i do im guarding the crap out of them.
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An ork with an idea tends to end with a bang.
14000pts Big 'n Bad Orkz
6000pts Admech/Knights
7500pts Necron Goldboys |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/03 15:54:44
Subject: Ork 1850 pts list, need advice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I competely agree, Lootas have the range to sit back anuway and it just seems a waste of a Warboss, although I suppose sitting back with him would safeguard Slay the Warlord.
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-Tom Leighton
- Ireland ETC - Eldar - 2016
-Former 17 year old intro welcomer for dank post count. Pls forgive me <3 |
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