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We got a bit confused in a recent game with using Independent Characters in assaults. I can't see anything in the 6ed rulebook that states that ICs are still treated as separate units in assault. So, I assume they are now just treated as part of the unit like anyone else.

So, is this correct....?

- The enemy just strike blows against the unit using the average WS (they can't pick out the character)
- Since the character always does pile in moves first, he'll probably be in base contact. Once I run out of regular guys in base contact, I'll have to allocate wounds against the character.
- However, he can Look Out Sir on a 2+, alloting the wounds to any model within 6" (any friendly or just anyone in his unit??)
- If another friendly unit join in the combat, the enemy can still split attacks between the two units like in 5ed, but astill can't pick the character out of his unit.
- If another friendly unit join in the combat, do they still help him out in a challenge, or is it only models in his own unit?

:/

No, they can't be picked out anymore - unless another character challenges. Look Out Sir isn't any model within 6". It's the closest model.

A few things...
Characters pile in first at their usual initiative step.
Look Out Sir now targets the model closest to that character in his own unit, not within 6" any more.
Other friendly units involved in the fight do assist with Moral Support (Get 'Im Boss), but only if the enemy character is the only enemy model left in the combat.

Reread pages 63-65 of the main rulebook and also the current rulebook FAQ/Errata on GW's website.

rigeld2 wrote:
No, they can't be picked out anymore - unless another character challenges. Look Out Sir isn't any model within 6". It's the closest model.

Its the closet model within 6"'s and has to be in the same unit, correct?


The other tactic, possibly only useful for hordes unless well placed, is to leave the IC back as I think challenges can only be made if character is in BTB, will check brb in a second

Right,I was wrong, who ever issues the challenge has to be locked in combat, which is in BTB correct?

Engaged in Combat, that's a bit more than just BTB.

Whos mentioned engaged?, it says locked in combat, which is defined as being in BTB

MarkyMark wrote:
Whos mentioned engaged?, it says locked in combat, which is defined as being in BTB

It's all related.
A unit is locked in combat if one or more members is in base to base. So the whole unit, and all characters are locked.
However only characters engaged can accept a challenge. (Page 64 & 23)

Ah right, because it says unit locked in combat not model, gotcha

Locked or engaged doesnt matter, rules state you must move the participants into B2B contact via move or even swapping the closest models in the units to get them into contact

Backlash wrote:
Locked or engaged doesnt matter, rules state you must move the participants into B2B contact via move or even swapping the closest models in the units to get them into contact

This is a partial statement and incorrect.

""Characters that cannot fight or strike blows (including those that are not engaged with an enemy model) cannot accept challenges.""