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Hi dakka

Just had a new idea, how about using grots as a human shield infron of your shota squads?
6th gives the boys behind a 5+ cover save.
But instead of using normal grots, use 3 Kannons from the heavy slots.
Add all the extra crew you can and one bully, dont have the book infront of me but I think it was 97p.
This should be around 19 boddies with 3 extra ammo runts.
Toughness 7 human shield marching infront of your boys is rather nice. You cant shot but who cares.
When you got the Boys in combat, point the guns at some armour and blast away.

I think we have a new use for our poor grots.

If you don't mind wasting your heavy slots for the big guns, it could work.

Just pray you don't face Dark Eldar (who will poison your guns ) or anyone with elevation (flyers and similar).

Flamers will also be an issue. They can hurt the Big Gunz, and then roast the boyz behind, with no save.

If i saw that setup with my last Ork list, it would be a prime target for the Burna Bomma.

Can big gunz walk and run normally?

The problem is that termagrots are just so effective behind an adl anyway you'd never want them mucking about.

Artillery can't run so that will be one slow advance up the field.

I didnt find any information about running in the artillery rules.
Where did you find that? Under movement?

I just think the idea of tougness 7 dudes with 3+ save with 4 wounds for 20p is a bargin.
And the option to add extra wounds for 3p per model is really nice.
Too nice to just let them hang around in the back.

I will use those Grotinators or Grotsteriod creatures in my next game.

Go for it

I'd be interested to see how they turn out

Um.... Once you have 4 grots, wouldn't the majority toughness rule take over making your kannons .... T2?

No, majority toughness does not apply. Under artillery special rules 1 pieces of artillery gives the entire unit T7 regardless of majority toughness.

The problem with advancing artillery as a screen for the boys is that the grots are still t2 in cc and will die if assaulted by anything. Also the save is no better than a KFF.

Grot artillery is also the most reliable source of long range dakka for orks. In the first 2 turns they will average 4.5 hits with the ammo runts, and then provide a solid 1.5 hits per turn for 6 hits by turn 3. It's like having a 3 man unit of long fangs that are t7, a 3 man unit of long fangs will also by the way average 6 hits by turn 3.

A Big Gun Battery cannot fire if it moved. Plus it is vulnerable to poison and close combat attacks. Why not run Killa Kanz? When comparing AV11 vs T7, they are equally susceptible to higher Strength attacks. However, where the Kanz will ignore S4, the Artillery can still be wounded on a 6. And you will have a unit that can shoot Rokkits with the same accuracy while moving, provide the same cover save, and are much more durable in CC, if not rather threatening.