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Just a quick question that came up the other day in a game:

When a Warpsmith uses the shatter defences ability on a buliding, would that reduce the cover saves it gives to a vehicle as well as infantry? Doesn't clarify in the rule, but since vehicle and infantry cover saves are worked out differently, does the -1 still apply?

Cheers.

In the example given at the top of page 75, it quotes woods as giving vehicles a 5+ whereas the example with the pictures uses ruins and a 4+ cover save. So I'd say that Shatter Defences would work against vehicle cover saves.

Note though that I'm normally wrong when posting on this forum, so give it a few minutes for someone to correct me.

Well I was kind of hoping for some debate on this, but one answer is something! I guess I'll just have to scrutinise the rules as much as possible, see if I can come up with anything.

There's no reason it wouldn't affect vehicles, the method in which vehicles receive a save is different from that of infantry but the save they do receive is the same.

Vehicles gain the exact same cover save as infantry.

And the same way. 25% obscurement=cover

More or less. 25% of the hull facing (excluding weapon barrels, banners, purely decorative elements), rather than 25% of the body (excluding wings, tails, weapons). And of course vehicles don't get an automatic cover save for being in area.

Anyway, while they qualify for the cover save a little differently, they’re still both using the same cover save the terrain grants. If that save is reduced by one, there’s no basis in the rules to think that would impact vehicles any differently than infantry.