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Having bought the 2 player battle box and built up the Khador side some I am now trying to create a couple lists that use what I have and what I will probably get for rpg's.
What I want to know is if these lists are excessively lacking in any area.
I know the choir and vassal don't appear, I know they make 'jacks better and are as close to auto includes as you can get in warmachine. I don't care I'm not using them.

15 point
pKreoss
Vanquisher
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard Bearer
Exemplar Errant Seneschal

25 point
pKreoss
Vigilant
Crusader
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 4 Grunts)
Exemplar Errants (Leader and 9 Grunts)
Exemplar Errant Officer & Standard Bearer
Exemplar Errant Seneschal

what I have:
pKreoss
Vanquisher
Vigilant
Crusader
Repenter
Full Cinerators

What I'm thinking of buying:
Templar
Full Exemplar Errants + UA
Exemplar Errant Seneschal
possibly Exemplar Knights

Hi, I believe for the 25p list you would probably need another warjack (vanquisher or repenter) and don't get the templar, its stats are basicly the same as the crusader

 YELLOWBLADES wrote:
Hi, I believe for the 25p list you would probably need another warjack (vanquisher or repenter) and don't get the templar, its stats are basicly the same as the crusader

Do you mean point wise or running pKreoss to full effect? Because according to forward kommander and war room points are right.
Also remember I'm running both units at max.

To fully use pKreoss' Power at that level you will need 3 'jacks

Ok, with the 25pt list I wouldn't have the Vigilant in there as none of your guys are really worried about blast damage. Yes it is really tough to take out compared to other lights but I think the repenter would be a better choice.

Now, Yellowblades would be right about Kreoss and three jacks if you had the choir and/or vassals but as you don't want to use them it just takes focus away from Kreoss that could be better used for upkeeps/purification.

And as for the things you're thinking of buying they are all good tools, some more than others of course but all fit in fine. And the templar may have the same stat line as a crusader but it is much better. It has reach for a better threat range, beat back to get even further into the enemies lines and the shield takes it to ARM 21, 23 with Defenders Ward. Get it and use it as a mini Avatar.

 yastobaal wrote:
Ok, with the 25pt list I wouldn't have the Vigilant in there as none of your guys are really worried about blast damage. Yes it is really tough to take out compared to other lights but I think the repenter would be a better choice.

Now, Yellowblades would be right about Kreoss and three jacks if you had the choir and/or vassals but as you don't want to use them it just takes focus away from Kreoss that could be better used for upkeeps/purification.

And as for the things you're thinking of buying they are all good tools, some more than others of course but all fit in fine. And the templar may have the same stat line as a crusader but it is much better. It has reach for a better threat range, beat back to get even further into the enemies lines and the shield takes it to ARM 21, 23 with Defenders Ward. Get it and use it as a mini Avatar.

Thank you for the suggestions yastobaal my total knowledge of PoM is choir and/or vassals are as close to auto-includes as warmachine gets and they like to play with fire.
My choice of vigilant was based entirely on looks and what would fit according to forward kommander.

I figure when choosing 'jacks I cant go to far wrong if I go one heavy and one light and combined arms over strictly melee.

The vigilant is also a very good choice tacticly for when he is charged by enemies