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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:23:54
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/03/newly-released-photo-shows-bloodied-george-zimmerman-from-night-trayvon-martin/
"A newly-released, graphic photo of George Zimmerman, taken the night of his fateful confrontation with Florida teen Trayvon Martin, shows the accused killer with a bloody face.
Zimmerman’s legal team released the photo, which they believe bolsters their case that Zimmerman, 29, was being beaten when he fatally shot the 17-year-old Martin in the chest. The photo was taken by police and only released to Zimmerman’s team recently, said Zimmerman’s lawyer. Previously, the team only had a black-and-white photocopy of the picture.
“That's really one of my frustrations. They originally submitted a black and white photo so we asked for a color copy. They then submitted a color photo copy that was drab," said Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara to Foxnews.com.
"We kept asking for a digital copy and then we had to file a motion [in court] to have it submitted."
O'Mara says that the discovery phase has been rife with issues.
"It just seems like it's been pulling teeth for discovery in this case," he said.
Martin was killed Feb. 26, in a confrontation that sparked a national debate on race, guns and Florida’s controversial Stand Your Ground law, which states that people under attack do not have a duty to try to retreat before using deadly force.
Martin’s defenders say the youth was merely cutting through a gated community in Sanford, Fla., after picking up snacks during halftime of the NBA All-Star game when Zimmerman, a volunteer neighborhood watch captain, racially profiled him. Zimmerman claims the youth acted suspiciously, and attacked him, bashing his head against a sidewalk.
Zimmerman told investigators he grabbed his gun from a holster on his waist before Martin could get it, and shot the teenager once in the chest. A tape released by his lawyer shows two butterfly bandages on the back of Zimmerman's head and another on his nose.
Zimmerman’s lawyers said the photocopy of the image was provided by the prosecutors in the first round of discovery. The high-resolution digital file was finally provided to the defense on Oct. 29, and defense attorneys have said they will make all public documents related to the case available on their website.
Prosecutors had asked for the gag order, claiming a website and social media used by Zimmerman's attorney could influence potential jurors in the racially charged case.
On Monday, Zimmerman's defense team publicly released a motion, filed the same day, asking for the additional deposition of one of the lead investigators due to information that surfaced during his original interview on Nov. 19th.
Requests for comment to special prosecutor Angela Corey's office were not immediately returned."
I like the part about the prosecution asking for a gag order on anything in favor of Zimmerman's side of the case because they are worried it would influence a jury.
It's not like a president had anything public to say about the situation...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:30:15
Subject: Re: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Things are about to get ugly in FLA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:33:39
Subject: Re: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Why? It's old news...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:40:19
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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Because the trial is coming.
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Avatar 720 wrote:You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:41:31
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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 oh... duh.
Just saw his picture... dang, Zimmerman took a beating.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:43:44
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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Relapse wrote:
I like the part about the prosecution asking for a gag order on anything in favor of Zimmerman's side of the case because they are worried it would influence a jury.
It's not like a president had anything public to say about the situation...
Defendants usually have a gaggle of things that cannot be brought into evidence or said in a case because it is deemed too prejudicial towards receiving a fair trial.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:46:00
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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whembly wrote:
 oh... duh.
Just saw his picture... dang, Zimmerman took a beating.
You should see the other guy. The teenager going to get skittles than he stalked and then killed.
The whole controversy seems over, to me at least. The controversy was about the fact that the Police didn't arrest Zimmerman or charge him with anything. They heard this story about a kid getting stalked and then shot, and they barely even bothered to investigate it. Then the media picked the story, and then all of the sudden the Police decided to stop being idiots and charge Zimmerman. Most people decide to stop being idiots when they realize their under scrutiny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:46:03
Subject: Re: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Huh. That nose looks broken.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:49:45
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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LoneLictor wrote: whembly wrote:
 oh... duh.
Just saw his picture... dang, Zimmerman took a beating.
You should see the other guy. The teenager going to get skittles than he stalked and then killed.
You mean like Dexter Morgan?
The whole controversy seems over, to me at least. The controversy was about the fact that the Police didn't arrest Zimmerman or charge him with anything. They heard this story about a kid getting stalked and then shot, and they barely even bothered to investigate it. Then the media picked the story, and then all of the sudden the Police decided to stop being idiots and charge Zimmerman. Most people decide to stop being idiots when they realize their under scrutiny.
You don't know that...
He'll have is day in court.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 02:54:08
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Looking forward to the trial and to see this resolved. Will be interesting to see the strategy of both sides.
Nothing to discuss in this thread though, nothing new of value added to the discussion that was locked multiple times already.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:01:34
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges
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whembly wrote:
Just saw his picture... dang, Zimmerman took a beating.
That's not too bad, just a broken nose. It does, however, corroborate Zimmerman's account of events.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:04:48
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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But it doesn't change the narative and questions:
1) who started the confrontation?
2) who was the first to make it physical?
3) did Martin have the right to stand his ground if he felt threatened?
4) can you legally defend yourself agains somebody that is legally defending themselves.
It's the same questions we argued about over and over again until the threads were locked, a bloody picture doesn't answer them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:06:24
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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d-usa wrote:But it doesn't change the narative and questions:
1) who started the confrontation?
2) who was the first to make it physical?
3) did Martin have the right to stand his ground if he felt threatened?
4) can you legally defend yourself agains somebody that is legally defending themselves.
It's the same questions we argued about over and over again until the threads were locked, a bloody picture doesn't answer them.
True...
That'll be addressed in court. I wonder if they'll allow cameras?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:08:05
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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What's up with that picture? Almost looks like a facebook "in the car" photo. I'm assuming a lot here, but he genuinely looks like he thinks what he did was right, or that he was the victim.
I have no opinion on the matter one way or another, but things are going to shake up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:31:28
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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whembly wrote:
 oh... duh.
Just saw his picture... dang, Zimmerman took a beating.
Honesty the picture of his face is of little concern. The back of his head is more concern, it's pretty easy to cave a skull in. Even by accident.
I still believe in my heart that Zimmerman shot Martin in cold blood. I also believe now that there is enough doubt that he will be found not guilty. Much like OJ it's a far cry from innocent. Automatically Appended Next Post: Captain Fantastic wrote:What's up with that picture? Almost looks like a facebook "in the car" photo. I'm assuming a lot here, but he genuinely looks like he thinks what he did was right, or that he was the victim.
I have no opinion on the matter one way or another, but things are going to shake up.
See the padded roll cage over his right shoulder. The picture was taken on the scene by one of the officers probably sitting in the back seat of a cruiser. Unless his truck had a roll cage...which I wouldn't put past him. He seems pretty whiskey tango to me.
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Avatar 720 wrote:You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
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I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters.. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:45:26
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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Surtur wrote:Relapse wrote:
I like the part about the prosecution asking for a gag order on anything in favor of Zimmerman's side of the case because they are worried it would influence a jury.
It's not like a president had anything public to say about the situation...
Defendants usually have a gaggle of things that cannot be brought into evidence or said in a case because it is deemed too prejudicial towards receiving a fair trial.
You'd think someone with an education as a lawyer like Obama would have thought about that before his public comments on the case.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:48:36
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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And you'd think all the politicians that are lawyers would learn to shut up about all kind of things that end up in court.
But congratulations in taking a picture of a bloody guy involved on a trial for murder and turning it into your weekly anti-Obama thread.
How will ObamaCare affect the verdict?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:54:09
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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d-usa wrote:And you'd think all the politicians that are lawyers would learn to shut up about all kind of things that end up in court.
But congratulations in taking a picture of a bloody guy involved on a trial for murder and turning it into your weekly anti-Obama thread.
How will ObamaCare affect the verdict?
No need to get your panties twisted because I point out the fact that Obama, Spike Lee, Al Sharpton and others get to say whatever they want publically against Zimmerman, but when Zimmerman tries to publically say something in his defense, he gets gagged.
The stated reason for the gag attempt? It might prejudice a jury? Give me a break.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:56:02
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Considering that you can usually only gag-order somebody involved in the actual trial, it's a dumb thing to argue about.
Unless the judge kept other famous people from saying anything in his defense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 03:58:24
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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d-usa wrote:And you'd think all the politicians that are lawyers would learn to shut up about all kind of things that end up in court.
But congratulations in taking a picture of a bloody guy involved on a trial for murder and turning it into your weekly anti-Obama thread.
How will ObamaCare affect the verdict?
Don't you dare derail this thread. I've been waiting for something with this kind of epic potential sans politics for months. The first three of these were the perfect gakstorms of the OT. So unless you bring something like OWS or Uc Davis to the table don't you even dream of ruining this!!!
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Avatar 720 wrote:You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters.. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:02:27
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hey, I'm trying to kick the politics back out of this...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:03:28
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Douglas Bader
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d-usa wrote:But it doesn't change the narative and questions:
1) who started the confrontation?
2) who was the first to make it physical?
3) did Martin have the right to stand his ground if he felt threatened?
4) can you legally defend yourself agains somebody that is legally defending themselves.
It's the same questions we argued about over and over again until the threads were locked, a bloody picture doesn't answer them.
This. A picture of a bloody face just proves that at some point there was a fight and he got hit, it doesn't answer any of the questions that would determine whether he is guilty or not.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:06:45
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Fixture of Dakka
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d-usa wrote:Hey, I'm trying to kick the politics back out of this...
Oh, then carry on good sir!
But seriously of you have something like the UC Davis thread...give.
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Avatar 720 wrote:You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters.. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:09:21
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No watering of hippies here...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:10:45
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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Infiltrating Hawwa'
Through the looking glass
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Peregrine wrote: d-usa wrote:But it doesn't change the narative and questions:
1) who started the confrontation?
2) who was the first to make it physical?
3) did Martin have the right to stand his ground if he felt threatened?
4) can you legally defend yourself agains somebody that is legally defending themselves.
It's the same questions we argued about over and over again until the threads were locked, a bloody picture doesn't answer them.
This. A picture of a bloody face just proves that at some point there was a fight and he got hit, it doesn't answer any of the questions that would determine whether he is guilty or not.
Emphasis on the red bits. I'm wholly neutral on the event. I can see it happening both ways, most people can't or don't want to. I'm curious how it might escalate around the court house that day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:20:47
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Posts with Authority
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I can't wait, I get the feeling all the grandstanding and hyperbole will overshadow even the recent elections. Maybe we'll even get a good old fashioned riot or three.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 04:23:11
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
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Bromsy wrote:I can't wait, I get the feeling all the grandstanding and hyperbole will overshadow even the recent elections. Maybe we'll even get a good old fashioned riot or three.
Well... flash mobs happened all over the place.
Stock up on some ammo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 11:59:44
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Bromsy wrote:I can't wait, I get the feeling all the grandstanding and hyperbole will overshadow even the recent elections. Maybe we'll even get a good old fashioned riot or three.
Finally, a reason for all the microwave popcorn I bought. My funmeter is low...entertain me!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 12:21:12
Subject: Color photos of a bloodied Zimmerman released
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Perhaps the moderators should put a gag order on this thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/04 13:00:06
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Moderators are always trying to gag us...
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