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All I'm looking for is pure competitive feedback. If you have any ideas, please don't hesitate to tell. Thanks in advance.


HQ:

Chaplain Cassius 125
(Is part of Terminator Assault Squad)

Troops:

Tactical Squad 170
+5 Marines
One Missile Launcher

Tactical Squad 170
+5 Marines
One Missile Launcher

Scout Squad 165
+5 Scouts
All Models have Sniper Rifles
All Models have Camo Cloaks

Elites:

Terminator Assault Squad 200
All TH/SS

Ironclad Dreadnought 145
Replace Storm Bolter with Heavy Flamer

Heavy Support:

Devastator Squad 190
Four Plasma Cannons

Predator 105
Replace Autocannon with Twin Linked Lascannon

Vindicator 125
Siege Shield

Dedicated Transports:

Razorback (Tactical Squad) 75
Replace Twin Linked Heavy Bolter with Twin Linked Lascannon

Razorback (Tactical Squad) 75
Replace Twin Linked Heavy Bolter with Twin Linked Lascannon

Drop Pod (Ironclad Dreadnought) 55
Replace Storm Bolter with Deathwind Missile Launcher

Land Raider Crusader (Terminator Assault Squad) 250

I would Replace the devastators (too much points in Scatter dices) and replace then with another Predator (TLL) and spend the other 85 point updating the Tactical Squads , trade the ML for Plasma Cannons in the Tactical Squads (75 points left) and if you have the model put Telion in the scout squad , that way the Cloaks are no longer needed and trade a sniper for a ML (50 telion plus 10 for the ML minus 30 for the cloaks total 30 points spend making 40 left) you can add 1 more Terminators , still fitting in the LandRaider and the point should be just about the same , i did the math in my head without the Codex but it should be about right .

GarretAsh wrote:
I would Replace the devastators (too much points in Scatter dices) and replace then with another Predator (TLL) and spend the other 85 point updating the Tactical Squads , trade the ML for Plasma Cannons in the Tactical Squads (75 points left) and if you have the model put Telion in the scout squad , that way the Cloaks are no longer needed and trade a sniper for a ML (50 telion plus 10 for the ML minus 30 for the cloaks total 30 points spend making 40 left) you can add 1 more Terminators , still fitting in the LandRaider and the point should be just about the same , i did the math in my head without the Codex but it should be about right .

That's a good idea, and I think I'll use it, but that leaves me with many more vehicles than infantry. Is that bad?

Thanks You would have 3 scoring units in a 1850 point games that can be a bit short in some objective games but that problem present it self even with the Devastators , the question here is what type of game you are playing , if you are playing for kill points it a good list ,if its for objectives i would think twice about the strategy around you list , sit the Tacticals in the Razorbacks on objectives and provide support fire its a good option , the 2 predators would Cover in case of need and the Vindicator would rain more support fire.The rest of the Close Combat Oriented Squads could get in enemy territory and hunt the enemy commander of some dangerous unit.

Relating to the number of vehicles the problem i would see is in a game against Necrons , those guys simply destroy any kind of armour they came across . Also if you were up against a Horde army( Orks, Tyranids or even infantary based guardsmen) the Twin Linked Lascannon in the tanks and dread would be of little use regarding the number of enemy's in the other side of the table .

But all in all the list is a good list that can deal a good amount of punishment on the enemy and take a few hits back , just remember to be careful with the infantry in scoring games.

I could always relpace the devastator squad with a tactical squad.

I use 25 scoring figures all the time at 1500-1750. I think that 30 scoring figures at 1850 is fine.

I think that 5 man devastator squad with 4 plasma cannon are going to catch of lot of bullets fast. I might go with bikes or speeders with multi meltas instead. The plasma cannons won't help vs enemy terminators if you can't get them out of their metal boxes. Even further, the plasma cannon is very mediocre vs TH/SS termies.