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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/08 23:35:24
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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1. Space Wolf split fire my brother says the rule means he can fire weapon A, then depending on the casualties inflicted, fire weapon B, so on in that manner until sufficient casualties have been inflicted, then move on to squad two, or alternate weapons between the two, such as fire weapon a at squad a then weapon b at squad b then weapon c at squad a so on.
I say it should be said before hand, IE "I am firing weapons A B C at squad A and weapons D and E at squad B."
2. If one fires a plasma weapon on rapid fire (2 shots) if one of the shots "Get's Hot!" and kills him, does the shot that ddnt get hot still fire and hit and wound as normal?
3. Assault distance, if I roll a total of 10in can I run around a unit that is in the way, as long as I dont exceed 10in can I do it?
I will have more here soon. Thanks for any help. Automatically Appended Next Post: 4. Can I give a command squad veteran 2x power swords and get a +1 to attack
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/08 23:37:28
2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/08 23:46:03
Subject: Rule questions
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Making Stuff
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Rysgame wrote:1. Space Wolf split fire my brother says the rule means he can fire weapon A, then depending on the casualties inflicted, fire weapon B, so on in that manner until sufficient casualties have been inflicted, then move on to squad two, or alternate weapons between the two, such as fire weapon a at squad a then weapon b at squad b then weapon c at squad a so on.
I say it should be said before hand, IE "I am firing weapons A B C at squad A and weapons D and E at squad B."
Splitting fire doesn't change the process for declaring your shots. So you are correct, you have to declare who is firing at what before you roll any shots.
2. If one fires a plasma weapon on rapid fire (2 shots)...
That's not 'firing on rapid fire'... Rapid Fire is a class of weapon, not a mode of fire. You don't 'rapid fire' a plasma gun any more than you 'heavy' a plasma cannon. You fire the rapid fire weapon, and it fires a number of shots depending on the range.
... if one of the shots "Get's Hot!" and kills him, does the shot that ddnt get hot still fire and hit and wound as normal?
Both shots happen at the same time, so yes, the other shot works as normal.
3. Assault distance, if I roll a total of 10in can I run around a unit that is in the way, as long as I dont exceed 10in can I do it?
You can run around intervening obstacles, yes, provided that the initial assaulting model moves by the shortest possible route to the target.
4. Can I give a command squad veteran 2x power swords and get a +1 to attack
What would be the point? One power sword and a bolt pistol will achieve the exact same thing, and save you some points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/08 23:49:19
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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So if one has a bolt pistol and power sword, he gets +1 attack. However does that mean that 2 attacks are power weapon attacks, and then 1 is normal for the bolt pistol?
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2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 00:11:41
Subject: Rule questions
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The Hive Mind
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Rysgame wrote:So if one has a bolt pistol and power sword, he gets +1 attack. However does that mean that 2 attacks are power weapon attacks, and then 1 is normal for the bolt pistol?
No, all attacks are the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/09 16:16:30
Subject: Rule questions
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You pick a weapon to fight with, and all attacks are made with that weapon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 21:24:42
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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So couldn't I bring a second power sword for aesthetics?
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2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/10 21:28:01
Subject: Rule questions
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Rysgame wrote:So couldn't I bring a second power sword for aesthetics?
You could but it is a waste of points to do so on a model with a pistol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 05:50:59
Subject: Rule questions
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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1. Split Fire on page 42 tells the exact order that the Special Rule is to be used.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/11 06:01:41
Subject: Rule questions
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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If you are going to bring a model with two power weapons, make one an Axe and one a Sword.
Atleast then you'll get the option to deal with AP2. >.>
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 04:38:23
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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So even if the second P. Sword is strictly for Aesthetics...I still gotta pay for it? Is that a widely used rule or will it depend on the opponent.
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2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/13 05:00:50
Subject: Rule questions
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Technically you should be paying for the second sword, though your opponent may be fine with it.
Your opponent could be fine with you saying all your meltas count as flamers too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 20:54:20
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Clarence wrote:Technically you should be paying for the second sword, though your opponent may be fine with it.
Your opponent could be fine with you saying all your meltas count as flamers too.
Sarcasm?
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2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 21:14:09
Subject: Rule questions
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Ghenghis Jon wrote:1. Split Fire on page 42 tells the exact order that the Special Rule is to be used.
Except Space Wolves don't use split fire, they have their own unique rule, that works very similar to split fire.
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rigeld2 wrote: Now go ahead and take that out of context to make me look like a fool. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 21:32:56
Subject: Rule questions
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Yes SW long fangs have their own rule that predates the current brb but it doesn't allow any change from the normal firing rules apart from the limitation at a unit targeting one unit only.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 22:00:17
Subject: Rule questions
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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nolzur wrote:Except Space Wolves don't use split fire, they have their own unique rule, that works very similar to split fire.
So, what is the SW rule? I thought it was always called Split Fire. liturgies of blood wrote:Yes SW long fangs have their own rule that predates the current brb but it doesn't allow any change from the normal firing rules apart from the limitation at a unit targeting one unit only.
How is it different from the BRB Split Fire? I'm not following you.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 22:03:10
Subject: Rule questions
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Read the codex. It's called fire control, page 28 under the long fangs. The rule has some caveats that Split Fire does not have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 22:05:12
Subject: Rule questions
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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It's called Fire Control and allows the unit to split fire between two units. As I am out of town and don't have my BRB with me at the moment, I'm not sure how it is different from Split Fire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/14 22:17:02
Subject: Rule questions
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
Green Bay
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With BYB split fire, only one model in the unit can fire seperately, with SW Fire Control, multiple models can fire seperately.
Example:
5 missile gents with split fire want to shoot at 2 squads
1 fellow can shoot at squad A, the rest much shoot at squad B (or vice versa)
5 missile SW with fire control can split this any way they want
same as above, or 3 and 2 Automatically Appended Next Post: You still have to declare who is shooting at what before anyone in the squad shoots, but you can split it up more.
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rigeld2 wrote: Now go ahead and take that out of context to make me look like a fool. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 02:44:46
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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But with the Fire Control the player still needs to declare targets and what models are firing at what before rolls right?
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2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 02:52:21
Subject: Rule questions
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Rysgame wrote:But with the Fire Control the player still needs to declare targets and what models are firing at what before rolls right?
Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 20:58:26
Subject: Rule questions
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Cool
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2250pts Darthex Legions
3500pts The United
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/15 22:03:59
Subject: Rule questions
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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