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Just curious if there are other sites than kickstart. Only thing that puts me off backing games on there is the usual "+$20 shipping outside US" ontop of the $50 i just paid (or would have done).

Kickstarter does have a uk presence now so you'll see a few projects appearing in £

eg

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1227636741/metal-15mm-scifi-future-war-neo-british-miniatures?ref=live

Indiegogo is the other big player, I've seen campaigns in euros and dollars

eg (one I'm backing)

http://www.indiegogo.com/Haar/x/893194

A BIG difference from KS is the campaign type (shown just under the time left)

If it says Fixed it works like KS except that your pledge is taken immediatly you make it via paypal

If it says Flexable it takes the money when you pledge as above BUT if the campaign fails to hit it's target the company still gets to keep it and push the project on as far as they can... a recipie for massive deleys or no product at the end of the day

Oh ok :O thanks, if kickstarter is actually starting to branch outside the states may keep keeping an eye on it then

If they are US projects, their products have to be shipped to you internationally. And until the Star Trek Beamer is invented, you have to pay for that whatever the website. I know that it's always dissapointing when people don't give you something for free

 Kroothawk wrote:
If they are US projects, their products have to be shipped to you internationally. And until the Star Trek Beamer is invented, you have to pay for that whatever the website. I know that it's always dissapointing when people don't give you something for free

Ment more at the lack of projects based closer so i can avoid the extra fees on top. Didnt realise, thought KS was ALL USA

 doc1234 wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
If they are US projects, their products have to be shipped to you internationally. And until the Star Trek Beamer is invented, you have to pay for that whatever the website. I know that it's always dissapointing when people don't give you something for free

Ment more at the lack of projects based closer so i can avoid the extra fees on top. Didnt realise, thought KS was ALL USA

Up until a few months ago, it was only USA (though some companies like Mantic managed to work around the legalities by having a US partner deal with the finance issues). Think it was October or around then that the site opened up to EU based programs as well.

Regarding the shipping though, keep in mind that even at $20 shipping - there is a good chance they are actually shipping things at a loss. For whatever reason - the various options to ship from the US overseas are very expensive. Even relatively small shipments cost a substantial amount (just spent about $100 to ship out a couple dozen Christmas cards to Europe and Asia).

Indiegogo is the other crowd funding site.

http://www.indiegogo.com/

And indiegogo has some interesting gaming related projects such as:

http://www.indiegogo.com/TheJoeyberry

Shipping costs have gone up a LOT over the past several years. :/

Microventures is pretty neat for getting actual (micro-) company equity instead of product for up-front-funding
http://www.microventures.com/

Upstart (also promises cash returns, but as a % of future income, not equity)
https://www.upstart.com/

Crowdcube (equity-based)
http://www.crowdcube.com/


Also some others

Rockethub
http://www.rockethub.com/

New Jelly (focus on Artists)
http://www.newjelly.com/

Gambitious (focus on games, also gives you equity and you can trade your stakes in projects with others)
http://gambitious.com/

Peerbackers
http://peerbackers.com/

Eppla (Italy based)
http://www.eppela.com/eng/

Causes.com (non-profit and philantropism)
http://www.causes.com/

Pozible.com (Australia based)
http://www.pozible.com/

Quirky (focus on inventors and has an online shop for inventions from past successful campaigns)
http://www.quirky.com/

DemoHour (China based)
http://demohour.com/

Idea Me (Latin America based)
http://idea.me/

Fund a Geek
http://www.fundageek.com/

Crowdrise
http://www.crowdrise.com/

Sponsume
http://www.sponsume.com/

Razoo
http://www.razoo.com/

CoFolio (focus on starting local businesses... e.g. Gaming Stores would be a good fit)
http://mycofolio.com/

GoFundMe
http://www.gofundme.com/

Startup Addict
http://www.startupaddict.com/


Probably a million more that I missed.

 doc1234 wrote:
Oh ok :O thanks, if kickstarter is actually starting to branch outside the states may keep keeping an eye on it then

USA population 311m > Britain population 62m


We have moar mind power than you!

 maskedman504 wrote:

 doc1234 wrote:
Oh ok :O thanks, if kickstarter is actually starting to branch outside the states may keep keeping an eye on it then

USA population 311m > Britain population 62m


We have moar mind power than you!

Sixe of USA: 9,827,000 km²

Size of Britain: 243,600 km²

Don't forget that Brits spend a lot on minis, at least in the GW slipstream

This is from GW's financial report last year. I can only guess it would be similar in distribution for Mantic, Hawk Wargames, Mongoose, etc..