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Hi,

I am thinking of building an Ogre kingdom army.
Anyone who has any suggestions ?

Greetz

Get the Battalion. Never Buy the Ogre Bulls Box. The Battalion is just that good.

Then, Buy some Sabertusks or put fenrisian wolves on cav. bases. these make amazing re directors/antiredirectors.

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Get the Battalion. Never Buy the Ogre Bulls Box. The Battalion is just that good.

Then, Buy some Sabertusks or put fenrisian wolves on cav. bases. these make amazing re directors/antiredirectors.

Thx I was planning on buying that. Now I just need t ofind a painting sceme .

 WouterDR wrote:

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Get the Battalion. Never Buy the Ogre Bulls Box. The Battalion is just that good.

Then, Buy some Sabertusks or put fenrisian wolves on cav. bases. these make amazing re directors/antiredirectors.

Thx I was planning on buying that. Now I just need t ofind a painting sceme .

Better yet, find a good skin tutorial. You'll be painting skin with Ogres. A lot of skin. A lot more than anything else.

 -Loki- wrote:

 WouterDR wrote:

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Get the Battalion. Never Buy the Ogre Bulls Box. The Battalion is just that good.

Then, Buy some Sabertusks or put fenrisian wolves on cav. bases. these make amazing re directors/antiredirectors.

Thx I was planning on buying that. Now I just need t ofind a painting sceme .

Better yet, find a good skin tutorial. You'll be painting skin with Ogres. A lot of skin. A lot more than anything else.

I want to use some differend skintones so I am going to test some paints, unfortunately i only have GW paints.

 WouterDR wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 WouterDR wrote:

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Get the Battalion. Never Buy the Ogre Bulls Box. The Battalion is just that good.

Then, Buy some Sabertusks or put fenrisian wolves on cav. bases. these make amazing re directors/antiredirectors.

Thx I was planning on buying that. Now I just need t ofind a painting sceme .

Better yet, find a good skin tutorial. You'll be painting skin with Ogres. A lot of skin. A lot more than anything else.

I want to use some differend skintones so I am going to test some paints, unfortunately i only have GW paints.

You'd do well to branch out. Vallejo, Reaper and P3 have some great skintones. There's no shame in widening your paint pool - it's the smart thing to do.

 -Loki- wrote:

 WouterDR wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 WouterDR wrote:

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Get the Battalion. Never Buy the Ogre Bulls Box. The Battalion is just that good.

Then, Buy some Sabertusks or put fenrisian wolves on cav. bases. these make amazing re directors/antiredirectors.

Thx I was planning on buying that. Now I just need t ofind a painting sceme .

Better yet, find a good skin tutorial. You'll be painting skin with Ogres. A lot of skin. A lot more than anything else.

I want to use some differend skintones so I am going to test some paints, unfortunately i only have GW paints.

You'd do well to branch out. Vallejo, Reaper and P3 have some great skintones. There's no shame in widening your paint pool - it's the smart thing to do.

I live in Belgium, there are no stores near me who have those brands. Could you recommend some online sites ?

If you branch out dont use testors it ruins brushes i used straight paint thinner instead of water and couldnt get the paint out of brushes

The battalion is an excellent value, as is the Bull box.

I would buy 2 Battalions, 2 boxes of Mournfangs, 2 Ironblasters, one pack of Sabretusks, and a Slaughtermaster.

That will get you a 2500 point army easily. Make 2 of the Leadbeltchers into a BSB and a butcher using kitbashing. Its easy to do and will save you money.

 Grey Templar wrote:
The battalion is an excellent value, as is the Bull box.

I would buy 2 Battalions, 2 boxes of Mournfangs, 2 Ironblasters, one pack of Sabretusks, and a Slaughtermaster.

That will get you a 2500 point army easily. Make 2 of the Leadbeltchers into a BSB and a butcher using kitbashing. Its easy to do and will save you money.

Thanks a lot for the tip, and don't you use an ironblaster ?

I said get 2 of them.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I said get 2 of them.

I'm sorry little bit tired

 Lord General Cheese wrote:
If you branch out dont use testors it ruins brushes i used straight paint thinner instead of water and couldnt get the paint out of brushes

i use testors myself it works fine you just have to buy their paint remover (its called terpintine maybe? cant remember at the moment) cause water is not supposed to get it off brushes its special paint made to last a long time.

but yes if you don't get the remover say goodbye to your brushes.

I have just started ogres myself and cannot argue with any of that advice.

I however managed to get 10 ogres 8 ironguts, 8 leadbelchers, a butcher and 2 bruisers/slaughtermasters from ebay already painted (not much time for painting with work and family life) for about half of the GW price.

I have since got 2 boxes of mournfangs and will soon be adding sabretusks (fenrisian wolves most likely) and an ironblaster once the fangs are done.

Future plans are to get the battleforce and an extra box of bulls for my second ogre unit, plus upping the ironguts to 12 (or maybe 2 units of 6) and the leadbelchers to 12 for large games (2 units of 6).

The only thing I am not sure about is the leadbelchers, is 12 too many?


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plus a stonehorn/thundertusk, second ironblaster and a firebelly cos I love the model for it.

Then I might consider converting a unit of maneaters with brace of handguns (6) and using the spare ogre I will have (I plan on my second unit being 10 models and upping my first unit from 9 to 10) to make a hunter with the spare bits from the stonehorn kit.

I think that is pretty much everything I want in the ogre army and should easily give me 3500-4000pts I reckon.

Leadbeltchers are one of those units that are "optional" in your army.

Having one unit of 3-4 is a good unit at clearing chaff or putting some wounds on an enemy block before combat. Its not goind to win the battle for you.


Having a couple units of 6-8 leadbeltchers on the other hand is the point where you have something that can cause damage in its own right.

Each leadbeltcher averages 3.5 shots a round. So a unit of 6 will net you 21 shots on average. thats 7 hits. Against T4 that will get you 3.5 wounds with -2 to saves. So around 3 unsaved wounds to a unit of Chaos Warriors. Or 5 wounds to your average T3 unit that only has 5+ armor.


For BS based shooting thats pretty impressive, especially at long range.

It won't win you the battle, you will still need combat blocks to finish the enemy off. And don't be afraid to commit the Leadbeltchers to melee if there is a weakened unit avaliable to charge, each leadbeltcher is still an ogre.